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I've found a lot of value in the habits of politeness, especially in written communication. It's disappointing when it's not a first class citizen in a company culture for things like code review. There are plenty of rationalizations for how it might not be needed, but that just feels like laziness.


I personally prefer to be given brutal honesty. Overly polite people often annoy me because they hide information or they can't get to the point or their point is hidden within layers of wishy-washy mush that I need to correctly parse and then respond correctly to.

Politeness is absolutely necessary, and I hate seeing callous impoliteness in wider society (e.g. towards service workers).

I suspect I would severely struggle in a deeply polite society (stereo-typically Asian?). I can relax the most around very direct people (Dutch?).

I am continually stressed when dealing with anyone that absolutely needs politeness. Example 1: a very close friend who can be triggered by anything reminding them of their abusive ex. Example 2: a self-centred acquaintance that needs pandering (however isn't polite in return).

There's a balance - but it's hard to find. Perhaps I'm confusing two different dimensions, politeness and honesty?

Edit: This is a wishy-washy comment. Difficult topic, straight-jacketed conflict, interpersonal stuff that is hard to understand and talk about.


I think that "polite" and "honest" and "direct" are orthogonal.

It is possible to be direct, honest, and polite.

You should consider the possibility that you're mistaken in linking "rude" with "direct"


> I think that "polite" and "honest" and "direct" are orthogonal.

They are certainly correlated so not orthogonal, its much harder to not be rude when you communicate a complaint than with praise.

You need to put much more effort in when you complain about something to not be seen as rude, that means they are not orthogonal. It also means many will just not do it since its too much work.


Or it means you haven’t practiced and some parts of the space are more difficult for you to traverse individually but still orthogonal objectively. I would say that something isn’t orthogonal if it is impossible to be both. It is clearly possible, just not practiced or easy.

I could grant there is also an objective friction surface, a fourth scalar describing how difficult it is to be direct, honest, and polite at once.


I feel similarly about overly-agreeable people, or people who bend over backwards to do everything in their power to make sure everyone around them likes them.

For me, it stems from seeing when someone changes their behavior or words in a way that's no longer authentic to themselves. I like when people are real with me.

But being real or authentic also isn't an excuse to be a jerk.


Being polite and being direct simultaneously can be tricky to realize but not impossible. The best communicators manage to achieve both.


I think you can be polite and direct, but at the cost of being verbose and awkward.


If you see someone do it well (the word ‘genteel’ comes to mind) you can find that verbos it and awkwardness will detract from both the directness and honesty.

‘Traditional’ etiquette books are actually pretty good at this stuff: one definition of etiquette is to never out another ill at ease or uncomfortable. Discomfort is contagious especially through body language, so the first thing you must do is be comfortable yourself with the feedback you’re giving.


I don't have time for the overly polite fluff talk to the expense of practical and real communication. It is hard to be caring and direct. Being triggered by anything can be ptsd, and/or a self defense mechanism for incompetence, so it's important to work out what is going on in these cases. But yes, it is absolutely possible to be caring and gracious while still being direct when you exclude the people who will over react as a self defense mechanism as a result of valid or invalid reasons.


Agreed! I have enjoyed how the constraints will prod me to refine and distill an initial thought into more crisp phrasing.


Possibly, but I doubt age is a primary cause. Openness to experience is a well identified personality trait which is unevenly distributed. Check out the "big five" concept from psychology for more info.


Dns gateway to redis is a fun idea


You can pay a small fee to have a "registered agent" service and that can include an address you can use.


I do have a registered agent but D-U-N-S does not accept registered agent or P.O. addresses. Plus, I have to physically take a picture of the office/address using the TrueVision app.


Just as a small bit of information, Dun & Bradstreet (DUNS) does this because they are called upon to assess risk and prevent fraud - it's about 10 times more likely with virtual addresses or registered agents.


I guess it raises the cost of fraud a bit (e.g. having to be physically present in the US during the DUNS application). But I'm wondering what kind of fraud the Play Store is trying to prevent with that requirement. Malware?


Are you going to open source this? Is anyone else (ex: Modal) doing this?


You're better off avoiding all the second hand articles around definitions and value, and do two things:

1. Try and explore using AI for various parts of the programming processes.

2. Find interesting engineers that write about the same explorations and observe.


Managing Humans by Michael Loop

Many of the chapters are derived from his blog posts if you want to get a feel for it.

https://managinghumans.com/pitch.html


thanks so much caprock! i hadn't heard about this resource, i guess it's gonna really help me in my career. thanks again


Find example companies, find their current or past jobs postings (maybe use the wayback machine), and identify the specific technology and techniques they request. Use that to write a map and plan.

Start using those technologies and building things. Write or at least post about it on X and follow related engineers on X. See kache's robotics journeyman community as one place for inspiration.


I just visit that journeyman community and looks like they are pretty stringent about that weekly update.


Maybe this is a sign to try something different with your time.


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