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Sparing you both the reading time and the outrage: No, it is not.

Actual answer from the blog post (tl;dr: maybe):

> The full impact of this latest development is still unclear. The BGH will issue a more detailed written ruling explaining its decision. Meanwhile, the case has now returned to the lower court for additional fact-finding. It could be a couple more years until we have a clear answer. We hope that the courts ultimately reach the same sensible conclusion and allow users to install ad blockers.


It’s a huge org. Pretty sure they can chew gum and walk down the sidewalk at the same time.

having been a customer for more than a decade, I've noticed an inverse correlation between their org size and the quality of their products

Having worked across startups and international consulting companies, usually there is a direct correlation between org size and use of cheaper less skilled offshoring development teams.

Even underfunding would be an improvement to the status quo. Many people seem oblivious to how dire the situation is.

Agreed. It's just sort of ironic as an aspirational goal.

Are you hiring in the UK exclusively?

Certbot is a utility that can only be installed via snap. That crap won’t make it to our servers, and many other people view it the same way I do.

So this change is most welcome.


That doesn't sound right to me. It's been in Debian and Ubuntu for a while:

* https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/certbot

* https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/certbot


Last I was concerned with, this was the situation:

https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/8345#issuecomment-...

That’s been three years though. The EFF/Certbot team has lost so much goodwill with me over that, I won’t go back.


It's a Python package you can install with pip, never ever installed it with Snap

It warms my heart to think about how much Thiel must hate to read this.

Well there are still quite some og tech monopolies left, but it does seem like the tide is starting to turn.

It’s readable. My handwriting is awful.

Sounds similar to playing video games: the rules are simple, so once you understand them, you can feel mighty and powerful simply by accomplishing banal tasks. Makes for a great dopamine rush.

That sounds horrible. Who wants that??

Someone who expect to make a lot of money selling said Agents.

It sounds like the kind of plan which would come from the Xbox division.

You can hold that stance, but it completely undermines the source of income for artists or inventors. If you want a world where only rich and privileged people can afford the time to create art, this is the way to go.

Otherwise, we maybe can agree that people who make something should be eligible for some kind of compensation to encourage them to continue making, for our shared benefit.

You can argue that Beyoncé and George Clooney and Stephen King are so rich already they don’t need the money anyway, but that omits how even these people had to make a career from the bottom up on the sole premise that their focus on their art (regardless of your opinion on it) will pay the bills.

So just saying piracy isn’t theft and thus isn’t a problem is a wholly undercooked answer to a difficult problem.


The "therefore isn't a problem" was not, I believe, present in the original post. It's entirely possible to believe that copyright infringement is not theft and yet also still a problem. It's mainly an appeal to not misrepresent the situation, because theft in a literal sense refers to a situation which is generally worse than copyright infringement.

I fail to see how it’s not just nitpicking. Yes, pirates only copy something and the original owner still gets to keep it.

The end result however is that someone gets something for free that they otherwise would have to pay for, similar to sneaking on a train or into a concert. In these cases, I don’t think many people would argue that what you’re doing isn’t wrong, or meaningfully different from theft; safe for lawyers of course, but I fail to see why the quibbling is relevant for normal people.


It's, if anything, more important for normal people: I think there's a very important moral difference between something that actively harms another person and not paying for something that benefits you. The latter, for example, should be much more acceptable for someone who lacks the means to pay to do. It's also much more important, (i.e. we should spend more resources), to prevent theft. Preventing piracy and your other examples is only important to the extent that it keeps the endeavor viable, or at least the effort in the prevention is worth the increase in payments. Coalescing this all into one thing is behind a lot of what I consider to be very harmful rhetoric and politics.

If you follow this logic, it gets really close to arguing that open source is price dumping. Nobody has an obligation to an income in a particular field of work.

Open Source is the conscious renunciation of any profit and intellectual property rights, whereas artists generally expect compensation for their work.

Plus, open source code gets mostly written by people with a stable and well-paid day job. Take that away, and I doubt there’s much open source code left.


So it's not just price dumping, it's also gatekeeping against unemployed developers. What a terrible practice.

Open source only looks better here because it has a different cultural context. But to a person trying to make money in the field, I'm not sure why that should matter.


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