I used to do paragliding and to me the video looks like low effort green screen more than AI.
The colons don't behave like that when flying because you have a tension exactly as much as your weight and it will vibrate and jiggle as it is rare to have perfect laminar flow especially over land(it gets more stable at hight altitudes but not that stable). Also, you are supposed to have 30 to 60 kph wind blowing at you all the time because that's how you stay airborn which means the handles and all kind of fiber and attachments will constantly move.
We were told stories about people who actually went to that altitude after being sucked by a cumulonimbus cloud and survived, so it's probably not impossible but this video screams fake at the second you look at it.
I'm surprised anybody bought it and I will be very surprised if it turns to be real. I find the one with the donkey much more convincing.
Yeah, watching that first video, a million things should stand out to anyone, even if they're not a paraglider. It's really hard to believe any part of this video is real.
Sort of related, but that video feels like it might be kind of cruel to the donkey. It's hard to believe that it really enjoys flying like that (but then again maybe who knows).
I was on the side of it being fake because the part where he's frozen the background is frozen/air around him seems to be barely moving. The background I can get that it's so far away doesn't look like it's moving. The other thing is the altitude is so high/can't breath but yeah.
I guess we'll have to take everything with a grain of salt from now on as any evidence can be faked with AI. I'm likely naive since I don't understand what the point of faking this was. Clout chasing? Monetizing this somehow?
I think it's validation. Consider if you were wanting to perfect AI to be very hard to distinguish, what better way than to crowd source it by putting on social media? The fear is when it's perfect and someone puts you in the middle of a very illegal situation; prove it wasn't you.
> The fear is when it's perfect and someone puts you in the middle of a very illegal situation; prove it wasn't you.
At least in the US, while the law is followed, this is not legal, the State will have to prove it wasn't AI. They're required to assume it's not you, and prove that it is.
The system is flawed of course and I'm not saying it always plays out like this in the real world, but the more we remember and repeat the laws they are supposed to follow, I think anyway, the greater chance we can hold those in power to the laws to which they are supposed to be held
Yeah, I think I read recently that they were going to release video proof that Epstein offed himself. The cynical part of me was thinking how convenient the timing was with how awesome video AI has become, and saddened that in general I can't really take video as proof anymore.
We'll have to adapt to it, obviously, but I don't think it's all bad. AI can make non-real but really easy to understand video, so for something like a piece of news where you just take a peek and move on, it's actually pretty much perfect.
AI has finally reached a point at which it can fake videos well enough that most people will believe it. Just in time for the fake Epstein suicide video!
Epstein didn't kill himself, nor is he dead. He's living out his retirement on another pedo island, as a reward for a kompromate job well done.
Based on the fact that the security cameras "weren't working" and the guards were "sleeping" at the moment he did it. When one of the highest profile criminals was in their unit. Bull crap.
Whatever the outcome of this specific case, we are clearly at a tipping point in history - it’s now basically impossible to say for certain if a fake video is real, and potentially even more problematic - also impossible to say for sure that a real video is not fake.
The whole concept of ‘video evidence’ is going up in smoke.
When it comes to actual court evidence, it’s just going to come back to chain of custody. What is the source of the video, how was it obtained, what hands did it go through before reaching the court, etc.
Easier said than done, though, especially when the sources themselves can be hacked and poeple can be bribed. When you make one step of a crime MUCH easier, finding evidence becomes much harder.
Most of us on here have an acutely-tuned spidey-sense when it comes to detecting AI videos, but several times recently I've found myself completely unable to tell if a video is real or fake. The issue is: if it's real, then you can spend a ton of time trying to determine it's fake, when it's not, and still not be sure.
When you submit a document to the court you must "lay a foundation" for it. That is, someone with personal knowledge of the document must testify under penalty of perjury about the contents being accurate and unmodified, etc.
It takes a certain degree of chutzpah to introduce those forged documents in court, though… you’re submitting them to adversarial scrutiny, it’s part of the court’s job to decide whether they’re reliable or not, and detection leads to criminal sanctions
I mean the other way around - you have to prove someone is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. What if there is some genuine footage, but there’s enough doubt that it could not be genuine
> also impossible to say for sure that a real video is not fake.
If you recall, when Epstein was arrested and awaiting trial, the media repeated the narrative that "deep fakes" were coming out now and some videos are completely fake.
It was never said in reference to Epstein specifically. But they were two independent stories at the same time. Almost as if it were a preparation for damage control should some compromising material be released.
Uhh, CGI is decades old now. Videos without sufficient provenance have always been suspect. Even beforehand you could do plenty of tomfoolery in the cutting room.
But that required lots of expertise and time to fabricate anything remotely convincing. We may now be close to an era where fakery at that level can be fabricated at industrial scale by any individuals and, most importantly, by powerful entities.
Powerful entities have always been able to hire VFX artists. Preferably fresh out of film school for 20% above industry wage and a sense of purpose. For the rest of us there's Fiverr. Some guy in Indonesia is unlikely to investigate whether he's editing part of a prank video or fabricating evidence.
Fabricating video absolutely became easier. But it's not so much about your video skills, you can buy those. It's about your organization and planning skills. Even a hilariously incompetent and unorganized entity with a lack of foresight can now fabricate reasonably convincing video
The colons don't behave like that when flying because you have a tension exactly as much as your weight and it will vibrate and jiggle as it is rare to have perfect laminar flow especially over land(it gets more stable at hight altitudes but not that stable). Also, you are supposed to have 30 to 60 kph wind blowing at you all the time because that's how you stay airborn which means the handles and all kind of fiber and attachments will constantly move.
We were told stories about people who actually went to that altitude after being sucked by a cumulonimbus cloud and survived, so it's probably not impossible but this video screams fake at the second you look at it.
I'm surprised anybody bought it and I will be very surprised if it turns to be real. I find the one with the donkey much more convincing.
At least it has some wind and tension: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xqWN3h32wrA