Well in Europe, you pay about £23 per flight just for a carry-on bag and £30 per flight for a check-in bag so I'm not sure things are any different here.

It completely depends on which airline you take. Like most other things, it's free on the more expensive airlines and more expensive on the cheaper ones.

It's included in the ticket price on more expensive airlines.

To be clear: I'm not European nor do I live in Europe.

I just looked up a flight, for example London to Paris. The cheapest BA ticket includes hand luggage for £57 each way, or the next option with checked baggage is £14 more.

I'm sure there probably are cheap-and-shit airlines that include nothing with the ticket price as you mention, but there clearly are also options where you pay a small fraction more (and certainly less than "additional baggage" charges) and have baggage included.

There's basically 2 classes of airline in Europe. "Low cost" airlines like RyanAir and Easyjet are constantly finding new ways to charge extra for service, while "traditional" airlines like BA are playing catchup by offering a slightly better experience.

The latest innovation of low cost airlines, as of a few years ago, is to charge for even the hand luggage in an overhead bin. You can only take a really small bag which fits under the seat in front without paying. BA haven't yet got to that level (although I'm sure they will with time). BA tend to be 30-50% more for the base ticket though - so you pay for it one way or another.

A lot of Europeans fly those chip as shit airlines within Europe.

That's their choice - the comment I replied to phrased it as if every airline charges extra for any baggage of any kind, not that cheap airlines charge for 'extras'.

> oddities in American flights

And you framed it as if every American airline charges extra for any baggage of any kind

You missed the preceding "another case of". As in an example of odd things that can happen.

I didn't proclaim "American airlines charge you extra" did I?

American carriers heavily encourage fliers to get their branded credit cards in tandem with their loyalty programs, which often give perks like free checked bags, among other variously useful perks.

For example, if you have the Alaska credit card you get a free checked bag for each of up to 6 people on your reservation.

It sucks that they gouge infrequent passengers, but if you fly even a couple times a year the perks are worth the card fee for whichever airline you fly most.

Also, international flights often do have free checked bags regardless.