>It is beyond me how people can deny post viral syndromes.
I feel part of the problem is we don't really have any good treatments for it. I know my doctor put it down as post viral tiredness but when I asked how long it might last or what I could do about it he just shrugged his shoulders.
I think it’s because we live in a world where you can’t recover. It’s all about being productive. Your doctor is saying , just get back to it.
If you got a virus and could take some time to rest then it probably wouldn’t be an issue. But I think we’re worried about viral recovery times because it affects GDP figures.
After I have a virus I like to go slow, but I’m not allowed because I have to keep up with my job.
That's far from universal though. Plenty countries and employers do offer recovery time and space, but it's not sufficient.
I've had friends who suffered CFS (known as ME here in the UK for a time) while students or shortly after finishing high school, and they did literally nothing for years with thankfully parental safety nets without recovering. I don't even recall what eventually happened unfortunately - we're talking early 1990s.
It's bizarre how your comment is being downvoted when it's a very accurate description of many modern capitalistic societies.
Especially if we're talking about America, where companies literally try to fire you if you're sick or using up too much health care because of their bottom line. It doesn't even matter if it's illegal because unless they get caught there are no consequences and even if they do get caught, the consequences are often times so pathetic that it's worth taking the hit because the savings exceed the punishment.
it's being downvoted because it somehow implies that by taking a few days of rest one might treat CE/MFS, which is a very misguided and misinformed take
It's been widely speculated that his extreme diet is likely what caused or contributed to his pancreatic cancer. Supposedly he was also ignoring his doctor's medical advice and had some irrational belief that his fruit diet would cure his cancer.
Have you assessed the nutritional content in the final juice? Carrots and celery are known to be harmful in excess (as most things are).
90 days is a very long time, please talk to a doctor or nutritionist before attempting anything like this.
You may also look into the fact you’re eating a zero-fiber diet. I’ve read something about that actually helping with IBS symptoms, it could explain any improvement you see vs the content of the diet which honestly doesn’t sound great.
It's not just "tons", it's exclusively vegetables which is probably fine as long as you make sure your diet is balanced.
However only drinking "juices" certainly for 3 months seems a bit wacky (of course it still depends on the specific fruits/vegetables). Chances are you'll consume significantly more sugar and significantly less protein and fat (of course fiber deosen't seem to matter..) compared to actually eating those vegetables/fruits directly. Which seems like a horrible idea..
No worries. “Eating” is not even the right word since you’re removing all solids. Without seeing any evidence or scientific argument, yes, drinking juice of the same four vegetables for a full three months sounds very problematic on multiple fronts… this is very different from “eating a lot of vegetables”.
I'm not forcing anyone to do it. I've done it, and had great results. I've had a few friends and family do it, and all have been impressed.
People think nothing of going on vacation and eating poorly and drinking for 7+ days straight.
But tell people you should try atleast 7 days of vegetable juice only and they start looking at your sideways. Say 30+ days and they'll warn you it's dangerous. Say 90 and they'll think you're going to die.
I promise you more people are dying from pizza and beer than vegetable juice for 90 days.
Because 90 days is long enough to see results for most people, but not so long that it's an impossible time frame.
Because drinking 10 lbs of vegetables is doable, but eating them is almost impossible raw. If you cook them, it's still hard to eat 10 lbs of vegetables and you've killed a lot of nutrients. Because it gives your body a break from digestion.
You'll feel a lot better.
Edit: even those that think the idea of vegetable juice curing anything is goofy basically have to admit that it forces you to avoid process junk for 90 days, and 'eat' tons of vegetables only. Which in itself is bound to fix a decent amount of things bothering people. You could argue that someone could just eat the vegetables, but it's very hard to get 1000-1500 calories just eating (chewing) raw vegetables. So juice them for 90 days. You won't feel too weak, and you'll give your body a break from digestion and from processed garbage.
Almost every human on earth has come up with 'eat vegetables', correct.
1, most people don't enough of it anyway.
2, I didn't say I came up with. I said I think a massive dose of vegetables for 90 days, that are ultra easy to digest because most fiber has been removed, is beneficial.
3, I didn't say mostly plants. I said all plants. If you try to do that, you'll have a LOT of trouble getting 1000+ calories doing it. Juicing them makes it possible.
But to your first point.. this thread was about people feeling terrible for months after an infection. We don't even know how or why they feel terrible. My advice was to try juicing vegetables, and not eating anything else, for 90 days. Because it has made MANY people that have tried it into believers.
Out of people that have tried it, I'd say 40% think it's a miracle process, 50% think it's very good for you, and 10% think they didn't feel any different.
Out of people that haven't tried it, 10% believe it would be great for them but they dont have the willpower to try it. The other 90% are usually negative about it without really having any good explanation.
I usually process a bunch of vegetables in a Vitamix because I think it's better to have it with the fiber. Would this be less of a good thing than just a straight juice? I've heard the juice loan isn't great without the fiber, but I don't know.
Blending a nice way to eat some vegetables for sure.
The idea of this temporary diet is to give your body time to live off only vegetables, with limited digestion effort. Even if you don't care about digestion, it is hard to eat, even blended, enough vegetables to maintain energy/calories/body weight. Even blended, I don't think you could eat 10 lbs a day for 90 days. That's the main benefit.
Unless you have an actual major sugar problem, I wouldn't worry too much about the sugar spike from juicing. We do much worse things than that to our body. Heck, some people even drink alcohol.
Because I have tried it many times and my body has some intense urge for beef, and ground beef IMO is the easiest to make, digest, and cheapest and has fats that are good for you IMO.
Some people think poorly of ground beef because "you don't know what's in it!" But moments later will tell you it's important to eat all parts of the animal because they have different nutrients. Ok then, sounds like ground beef is a good way to get different portions a butcher doesn't think sells well. Give me some foot meat, bring it on.
There's also the fact that beef is basically the one food you could eat alone 365 days a year your whole life and get everything you need. That doesn't apply to vegetables or chicken or anything else really.
Tldr; many people would say someone that eats a HUGE salad and some meat everyday, no breads or processed garbage would be healthy. Well, drinking 10 lbs of vegetables and having some ground beef is basically that except you're drinking more vegetables even that most people could ever eat in a day.
> There's also the fact that beef is basically the one food you could eat alone 365 days a year your whole life and get everything you need. That doesn't apply to vegetables or chicken or anything else really.
Do you have some sources to back this up? I was under the impression that you should really eat red meat in moderation, but this might be outdated info.
I feel part of the problem is we don't really have any good treatments for it. I know my doctor put it down as post viral tiredness but when I asked how long it might last or what I could do about it he just shrugged his shoulders.