Might be your problem. You're not going to find anyone serious there -- you get what you pay for. A site that charges the consultant instead of the client isn't exactly gonna attract even average level talent.
How is it from a hiring perspective weeding through all the options? I'm coming at this as a worker, I used to be on there years back but there is so much competition.
I find it easier than traditional means to weed out real talent. Most our best people we found there. But I am aware of how horrible people here are at interviewing (from reading the time wasting ways they interview and give people tasks to find talent); I never really got that but whatever, it is to our advantage. I think most of the issues weeding out talent is connected to the point that people don’t know how to in general, outside or inside upwork.
There is not too much competition for talent. The crap is easy to weed out; most people who are bad have 100 ‘expert skills’ on their profile. So skipping those (which, unfortunately, means that you mostly end up without anyone from Asia) already cleans up nicely. Secondly, remove all the ones that have open jobs at that moment. Then remove low ratings. Now you have a few left to have chat and figure out if they are lying or not. And then you just pick the best one (technically but also if you click with them) that’s left.
Yes, but I am more tolerant of that personally, because I used to work via elance (upwork has roots there) and you have to respond to many jobs to get attention. So I understand many go wide and wait with details until they get invited to a chat.
I mean weak dollar. For instance $1USD will get you around $1.5NZD. With the average developer earning a little over $100,000NZD you are looking at around $66,000USD. Much cheaper than many other options. However they're still native English speakers with a very western culture.
You're right about volatility too, the NZD doesn't swing too wildly.
Why would you accept a job that pays only US$66k if the value of your work is US$100k? Here (central Europe) it's common practice to count your money in EUR or USD even though we're paid in the local currency - especially if the local currency is not pegged to EUR.
> Why would you accept a job that pays only US$66k if the value of your work is US$100k?
Because in some countries, you can live like a king on $66k and you'll always have contracts. And anyway, no one gets paid based on the "value of their work". That's how services businesses are profitable at all -- the employees generate more value than they're paid.
Yeah but then I want to move to the US or Switzerland or Germany and the US$66k is suddenly a lot less? I have no idea why a skilled senior SWE contractor would go into that kind of deal, the market is much hotter than that, $66k is entry level rate for a contractor even if you work at local companies here.
Our country will only do better if some high skilled workers remain. With the cost of software development NZ can export development and this will improve our economy. That should help everyone here live better lives.
As I do contract work on Upwork, I feel personally attacked.
So all contractors that are not on that platform are 10x developers?/s
Sweeping generalizations are always easy to make, but if talent assessment would be easy nobody would have problem hiring, in general, and that's not what I'm seeing.
Might be your problem. You're not going to find anyone serious there -- you get what you pay for. A site that charges the consultant instead of the client isn't exactly gonna attract even average level talent.