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I think I might have a unpopular perspective but when I was incarcerated for 2 years 11 days it gave me a chance to get away from drugs for that period. Although the environment hardly supported addiction recovery, the high cost and irregular supply made drug use unsustainable. If I had made parole and gotten out after a year, I would have been right back into hard drugs. Allow me to add that I had a pretty much uninterrupted 30 or so year addiction to opiates.


Wow, I never thought about prisons as commitment devices for drug addicts. Thanks for sharing your experience.

Despite the usefulness of prison in your case, there is plenty of research showing that alternative means to incarceration are better for everybody (for the offenders and the taxpayers). For example, this paper shows a drop of 40% in recidivism for electronic monitoring instead of incarceration: http://www.nber.org/papers/w15602. Also, there is a lot of evidence from drug courts. This is one example: https://crimesolutions.gov/ProgramDetails.aspx?ID=70.

I am not affiliated with Promise.


Good comment. I was going to say that while prison might work for some with addictions, it certainly does not teach them anything about staying away from drugs. In many cases recidivism is high because these people who remained sober for the duration of their sentence get out and fall right back into it within a few months. They might have trouble finding jobs due to a record, or maybe they were incarcerated long enough that they lost old, good connections or have bad ones they made while incarcerated. It might just be a matter of time until they fall back into usage as an escape mechanism.

There's just very many ways that going to prison hurts a person and very few ways that helps, and only for the right kind of people too (ex: longterm drug abuser with a lack of self control relinquishing his rights in this case).


My assumption is that Promise isn't intended for every case. Some people will still go to jail.

Also, there are other ways to break a cycle of addiction. Prison isn't the only way, nor even a particularly recommended way.

I'm glad you got free of your addiction. Religious types might chalk this up to "the good lord moves in mysterious ways."

But I don't see any reason why your story should be viewed as an argument against their work.


I was fortunate enough to get into rehab after only two stints in jail, and have remained sober from heroin and cocaine for 10+ years. However during the time in jail for crimes related to my addiction the only thing on my mind the entire stay was, "can't wait to get out of here and get that first dose again".

It is especially hard to think about bettering yourself and getting help when you're around countless other people basically glorifying the problem from which you suffer.


>However during the time in jail for crimes related to my addiction the only thing on my mind the entire stay was, "can't wait to get out of here and get that first dose again".

Speaking to someone who had recently been released, he talked about people shooting up in the car two minutes after being released. Friends and sometimes even family members would be there to meet them at their release and would bring along drugs for them to consume at the first possible instant as some kind of "welcome back" present.


If you had been given the choice between 2-years of government enforced rehab or 1 year of jail, what would the old you have chosen?


Well I imagine with this in place, you would get drug tested regularly, and if you fail those tests eventually you would actually go to jail since you would not be respecting what you need to do?


Failing a test, or more accurately the fear of failing a test, and being cut off from a supply are separate concepts.


That's why I mention sending them to jail if the test is failed. Society gave them a chance and they failed - now they go through the usual process.


Wait, you believe going to jail is the usual process for addiction recovery?


No? Someone just mentioned it was an upside when going to jail that would be lost if people don't go to jail.


Makes perfect sense, but this project aims to profit.

The obvious centuries-old solution of government-managed prisons is useless for that.


There is plenty of evidence showing that alternatives to imprisonment reduce recidivism and are cheaper. Government-managed or not.




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