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And in my state I needed more documentation for an ID than was required for my passport. It varies wildly.


That’s why we have classes and namespaces.

Anyone can write good or bad code. Avoiding new functionality and syntax won’t change that.


Is this not the logical result of fighting spammers? It’s easier to trust messages coming from mega corp when you know mega corp has invested in mechanisms that ensure their systems aren’t being used to send spam. I certainly don’t like the negative impact on people who choose to self host, but I also don’t see it as an intentional effort to shut out legitimate emails.

Case in point a bit further down in the comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43902653


It's always good to have an alternative reason beyond "we want to crush the competition", especially if one of these pesky anti-trust lawsuits comes around.

It's very easily possible for both to be true, there is a "fight spam" reason and there is also a "monopoly" reason, and of course unless you very stupid you never mention the second.


Their systems still do send spam. Yes probably an extremely low percent, but I do see @gmail.com spam.


I’m bothered by the UK thing because beyond just the marketing, we had Tim declare that “Privacy is a human right.”

Marketing is BS, and I expect companies to screw customers and ideals (“Do no evil”) whenever it’s convenient. But I really thought Tim understood the assignment and would keep Apple on track for at least the duration of his tenure.

Now every nation knows they can pass similar laws and Apple will do nothing.


Tim Cook is all about the money and has no integrity. That's why he caved and why he also got the kneepads out to kiss Trump's feet.


The idea is pretty brilliant. I hope it takes off. Good luck.


Thanks for the positive reply, will 100% post here when it launches fully!


This product looks awesome and the mobile app looks exceptional. But if it’s not self-hosted and in some kind of standard format,you’re SOL when the company shuts down. Even though you can export your data, where are you supposed import it to?

Here are some possible alternatives: https://selfh.st/alternatives/notion/


Trust me, I do understand all that. My personal set of trade-offs is such that I really can't be bothered with self-hosting.

Capacities has one-click export of all of your objects (notes/pages) with a sensible folder structure that produces markdown with frontmatter and includes all media attachments. That's good enough for me.


I still generate random passwords for the questions. I don’t like that someone who knows me well could use them to gain access to an account.

… but yes we definitely need extra fields for storing that and lots of other related data.

I’m a 1Password user and one of the features I really like is that it saves ALL of the fields from a signup form along with the password. That has saved me a couple of times where I needed to know some value I had entered at the time I created an account.



Since Guttenberg WP has become a complete mess and most devs I know are migrating away from it. It’s definitely on the chopping block.



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