WA is always pretty slow. At least to me.

What about Criteo?

So, Chuck Rhoades is after them?

I used to hate AMP with my guts. But to be honest, usually when I tried to avoid or loaded the site instead of AMP, I get presented with a worse experience in a bloated web-site, whereas when I click on the AMP version, it loads immediately. So now I don't care anymore. But google is not my main search engine, so I less very little of it.

Move to another country?

Another planet more like

yea right. same thing with facebook asking for phone numbers for two factor. they would NEVER use that for ads, right?

One of the huge differences between Facebook and Google is that Google took care to never use that 2nd-factor for anything except account recovery.

I just want to be reminded in a year if this still exists or has any real traction.

Me too! No clue why they keep doing that!

I tried the site on macbook touchpad and iPhone X, works _very_ well. Maybe the directly targeted audience use one of these?

I have no interest in AirPods but I think the page is super nicely done. Not something I'd like for every product I look at ever, but as a sort of unveiling I think is is nicer than a spec sheet.

Yeah I'm sure it's lovely with a touchpad or touchscreen! I can't say I'm a huge fan of that style even with those input devices, but I can appreciate what they're going for.

I just wish a little attention was paid when other input devices are being used.

This is sad. Because as tech advances, we are stuck with governments that don't have good teams and leave a ton of stuff vulnerable.

So, the sad part is that governments don't have Google teams?

I have a feeling that they will end just launching something in developing countries with weak regulation and will be done with it. It's a way to get more data from people. It's becoming pretty clear that this will not fly in the US or EU.

> It's a way to get more data from people.

Owning other people's money and controlling where it can and cannot flow is way more than a way to get more data.

Although I don't know all the aspects around the Libra protocol, I'm fairly sure that FB is only making the Calibra App. The (stablecoin) Libra should be able to be accessed through other wallets overtime (given it is a cryptocurrency).

Since it is a cryptocurrency, the whole point is to allow people to send money w/o censorship.

It's not a cryptocurrency though. It even says in their white paper that it's a permissioned system. Calling it a cryptocurrency is just marketing to ride on the hype train.

There are permissioned and permissionless cryptocurrencies. Otherwise what is the point of creating such a nomenclature?

The whitepaper also says that Libra will launch permissioned and transition to a permissionless cryptocurrency.

Obviously the point is to ride on the hype train by redefining the original meaning. It's similar to a "democracy with a dictator", it just doesn't make sense.

Yes, and Facebook hasn't lied to us before? They don't have an actual plan on how to accomplish this transition, which necessarily includes completely redefining the whole system Libra is based on.

It is not a good idea to take what Facebook says at face value. It is worth examining anything they say in an extra critical and sceptical way because of their (at this point) well-documented willingness to lie and bend the truth.

They won't be able to do this in India or China.

(Agreed.)

So in terms of large-ish economies/populations, maybe they have a chance in parts of Africa (I know some people working at chinese-owned companies hard at work on this market) and maybe parts of South America and SEA?

Maybe the will make it work in countries that are either corrupt or incompetently managed. I don't see why a reasonably competent or reasonably non-corrupt government would allow this.

China is no longer a developing country.

They will probably be able to pull something like this off in a country with poor banking.

It is DOA if it has no adoption in US, Europe, India and China.

They may find developing countries already have good alternatives. I’ve not personally used M-Pesa, for example, but that was a thing before bitcoin ever appeared.

What even is the USP of Libra?

They should probably kick it off this way from the beginning; stay quiet, do it in some 3rd world country, expand slowly from there to the least resistant countries; at some point it would fail or would be too big to stop by big countries