Any backdoor can be used by any government. It may take time, but it will be found and exploited. All they're doing is passing the buck... your buck, that is.
As a human that has only eyes, I've smashed the underside of my front bumper on many a curb over the years in various cars because just sight alone, blocked by the hood and front end of a car is a crappy way of judging things like that.
I say this as someone who absolutely loves his Model3.. but a step back is a step back, no matter how one spins it.
Radar-delete was a user experience negative for me as well. My autopilot experience today is far more 'jerky jerk' in terms of stop/go traffic than it ever was in the glory days of 'radar distancing data', so much so that AP is now banned on anything but 'smooth sailing highway driving' when I have certain motion sick vulnerable individuals in the car. Add on to that it's now (rightfully, given it's lost the radar available data) far more touchy about weather conditions before it'll even engage. :(
Your wording, especially the "Not true" puts it in your own voice.
Not to mention, just repeating Musk's statement in the context you did (as a response to someone explicitly disagreeing already) implies that you agree with it.
> It's a real system that was made in the United States
Not sure that's true (most of the founder folk appear to be non-US based, and the foundation is Swiss if I'm not mistaken), nor is it what the US Govt is claiming.
The SEC appears to be saying "45% of the validator nodes on the network are US based, therefore the transactions happened here, and our laws apply". Which is a horribly bad statistical assumption by an agency that would, one hopes, employ actual mathematicians.
I'm far from an ETH fan, more old school BTC myself, but to me, this feels like an exact reminder of why centralization (Even at the country level) is bad, and I can only assume that someone somewhere, who is working on the "next generation of blockchain" just scribbled "GeoIP based node populations limitations/banning" onto their feature roadmap.
> Not sure that's true (most of the founder folk appear to be non-US based, and the foundation is Swiss if I'm not mistaken)
Sorry, I could have been more clear when writing. This was my fault.
I meant this physically. The network nodes are physical, and they're in the United States.
If you are from France, you go to Japan, buy a bunch of arcade machines, then bring them to the US, and make an arcade company, I'm likely to say you built your company here, even though you did your planning, financing, and purchasing somewhere else.
That's (as far as I can see, maybe I'm wrong) what the SEC is actually arguing - a substantial portion of the physical network has been built here, therefore our laws apply.
As far as I know, that's just a core concept in the law. Where the thing happens, physically, determines which laws the thing is subject to, worldwide.
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> The SEC appears to be saying "45% of the validator nodes on the network are US based, therefore the transactions happened here, and our laws apply". Which is a horribly bad statistical assumption by an agency that would, one hopes, employ actual mathematicians.
This is the norm in the legal system.
I'm actually not entirely certain what assumption is being made here, or how mathematicians would be involved. Maybe this is because there's something I don't understand about the Eth network. I'm worried I'm missing something, or discussing the wrong thing.
I thought from reading the document that this was just them saying "we know who these nodes are, they're American, and let's divide." Am I misunderstanding?
As far as I understand it, what they're saying is "if any ETH goes over American nodes, then American law has to be considered when trying to figure out if ETH is legal in America." I believe that's entirely correct.
I believe the observation they're actually making is "a bunch of Americans using American nodes are on this network - nearly half of it - so since that's at least one, it applies."
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> this feels like an exact reminder of why centralization (Even at the country level) is bad
As a gentle reminder, this was what Ross Ulbricht said, was that the rule of law was bad because he didn't like it, and therefore we should decentralize to evade the law.
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There's a tendency, in my opinion, for these discussions to focus a lot on why each person thinks everyone else's opinion is wrong.
I'll ask you directly. What do you think is right, here? I personally think that's a lot harder to answer.
Should Ethereum, or if you prefer individual transactions, be bound to any country's laws? If so, which ones? If not, why not? If this isn't the right question to ask, can you suggest a better one to me?
I think that after people have answered what they think is right, they'll find it's pretty similar to what people are saying is wrong.
I am not able to see much wiggle room here. As I see it, if any decision is to be made, then the answer basically has to be one (or more) of the following:
1. The country where the hardware is running gets to set the laws
2. The countries where the transaction is happening get to set the laws
3. Both 1 and 2 (this is what I believe current international law supports)
4. No laws apply
5. The scale is something different than "country," but otherwise still 1-3
It's not clear to me what other options even exist. (Maybe I'm missing stuff?)
I think that as soon as people try to look for anything other than those five, and realize that something has to be chosen, they might start coming to some different viewpoints.
Do you prefer one of those five? If not, do you have an alternative, or maybe a replacement question?
I don't think almost anyone actually wants a lawless anarchy like in #4. But also, I think this discussion is rejecting countries as arbiters of laws here on the presumption that that's somehow obviously wrong, and it's not obvious at all, to me. Who else would do this but governments?
Just my beliefs, though. I'm happy to be wrong, and if you can think of a sixth option, I would like to know what it is, even if you don't think it's the right choice.
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I also have a really hard time with the amount of pollution this is all dumping, even after POS, to be honest. I think that gets downplayed too much. It's why I've never been willing to participate.
Just the ETH POW -> POS change dropped a third of a percent of the entire planet's power, they said, and that doesn't quite half-fix the consumption.
A third of a percent of the entire planet, for less-than-half-fixed, for the second largest network.
Two large countries' worth of pollution to, in effect, run a stock trading simulation.
Here, we debate whether the transactions should be subject to the laws of the countries.
I honestly am not certain that I think any of this stuff will be legal in ten years, with the massive environmental damage it's doing in climate change's 11th hour.
Pakistan's under water, the Great Salt Lake is about to be a dust bowl, the Atlantic Deep Water Formation is failing, we lost Antarctica's three largest ice shelves this year ten years early (conger, thwaites, glenzer,) the Colorado River is drying up, most hydro dams can't produce much power anymore, &c. Food's getting expensive, that's the world's #1 predictor of war, historically, and it looks like it's only going to get worse. I could write this paragraph for pages.
We're starting the real environmental problems, and it will speed up every year. The pitchforks are coming soon, people will want to place blame, and they aren't going to stop with the Koch brothers.
I know I sound extreme when I say this, but I believe we will live to see a time where waste of pollution for personal wealth gain will be seen as criminal, because that's going to be the only practical way to stop the carbon economy, and look what the alternative is. I say this because even the Federal Government is saying "we have less than ten years left" and nothing is changing.
There's nothing ethically wrong with blockchain on a clean grid, but the grid isn't clean, and this bragging about 50% stuff is a clear sign that we can't have honest discussions when money is in play. People like to measure how much of it is solar, but PV solar is 76% natural gas backed on average, US DOE numbers, and CSP 71%, something absolutely nobody wants to face. Wind's hardly different
"It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
Your wall of text is incoherent and reveals a deep lack of understanding of the blockchain. ETH doesn't "go over to American nodes" and validators running in the EU are not like American-made arcade machines.
> with the massive environmental damage it's doing in climate change's 11th hour.
Honestly, I know this answer isnt going to be that popular in some circles, but.. yes. leave it. If it offends your sensibility so much that you just can't be 'caretaker' for this mess, walk away.
But if it's "working fine and generating heaps of cash" as far as upstairs is concerned, there is no way you play the 'refactor/redesign/replace' game and come out ahead.
> Since for most properties the majority of the value is in the land itself
I'm not sure that's the case for the majority of the country. At-least it's not here in my greater metro area (suburbs or rural... yuppie downtown areas... perhaps, but again, downtown is not majority for most places)
It may be not true right now amid difficulty in finding labour and materials. Much like cars, the value of a used home is proportional to the cost of building a new home. When new homes are difficult to acquire, cost of used homes go up. Used cars have also increased in value lately for the same reason. This is not typical, however. These are normally depreciating assets.
Under usual market conditions, houses are headed to being on the older side and reaching the end of their effective lifetime, leaving little value left in the structure. You can renovate a home to bring it back to new-like condition, which restores value to the structure, but that cost must be maintained in the equation.
I'd think anywhere where apartments are viable to build it would be true, and of course large rural properties. Whether they make up "most properties" I'm not sure - it would surprise me if much less than half of properties in Australia were sitting on land worth more than the house itself (despite the enormous amount of undeveloped/low-value land we have!).
> I do not think it is unreasonable to expect a brand new laptop to ship with either of them.
For a Dell, HP, or other multinational conglomerate who gets new chipsets in advance from Intel and always has a dozen or more models on the never ending merry-go-round of 'hype the new, dump last seasons at Costco on the people who don't know any better', no, it's not unreasonable.
For a small batch manufacturer who's been shipping laptops less then a year and is still effectively on their first model release? All in the middle of a pandemic induced supply chain fiasco?
Maybe for Alder Lake, but Zen 3 has been around for an eternity, and is already on the cusp of being succeeded by Zen 4. Zen 3 is also so much better than 11th gen Intel that I struggle to understand why any manufacturer would have chosen Intel for their new flagship laptop in 2021.
> Maybe for Alder Lake, but Zen 3 has been around for an eternity
5000 series Zen 3 has on desktop. Zen 3 based 6000 series laptops with RDNA2 graphics are still newish and a little difficult to get. Even from tier-1 brands.
AMD was also a little late to getting Linux support into these computers. 5.17 (released a few weeks ago and is what Fedora 36 will release with) just got support into the Ethernet driver.
On any thread on framework, comments in the form of "I'd buy one right now if it had X" are probably the most common, for quite a few X ;-)
That being said, I'm also waiting for an AMD CPU. Given that it is the most requested feature, though, I assume they'll be there in the next iteration.
To be fair, the people that run SaaS platforms that extort a 3x multiple to go from "Pro" which just happens to have every feature they offer EXCEPT SAML, to "Enterprise" which, low and behold, adds no value /other/ than SAML all need to line up and die in a fire someplace.
Fixed that for you. :/