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Yet any action towards this end consumes an unfortunately finite amount of physical resources, money, and human concern. There are opportunity costs to be weighed for every course, and what if it is cheaper to build dikes and levees than enact the kind of sweeping social and economic change necessary to even dent such a prediction? Perhaps that time and money is better spent providing clean drinking water, combating prolific diseases, or eradicating slavery? These questions of balance are quickly forgotten with such breathless Cassandras begging for attention and scaring the people who are too quick to delegate reasoning.


The problem is of course that your solution requires the rich nations building those dikes and levees for all the third world nations of the world. Do you think that won't be a sweeping social and economic change?


Richer nations don't necessarily need to build walls around poorer nations to keep the water out. They may find it cheaper or otherwise preferable to build walls around themselves to stop the flow of people fleeing from the poorer nations.

Climate refugees have no legal status under the UN Refugee Convention:

> `there has been a collective, and rather successful, attempt to ignore the scope of the problem... so far there is no "home" for forced climate migrants in the international community, both literally and figuratively` -- Oli Brown [1]

Nations are already following this approach of literally building walls or pouring resources into improving their border security. For example, India is building a wall along its border with Bangladesh, and some of the nations in the EU are spending a lot of money and resources trying to intercept or discourage boats of immigrants from Africa [2].

> With 80 percent of its densely populated landmass lying near sea level, Bangladesh is often hailed as "ground zero" for climate change. A 1 meter rise in sea level, which seems likely by the end of the century, could flood almost one-fifth of the country. Some of the most vulnerable coastal districts in Bangladesh—Khulna, Satkhira, and Bagerhat—lie along India's border. -- [3]

> The Continent's richer, more northerly countries, great emitters of carbon and producers of wealth, barely contributed ships or aircraft to Frontex [4], and they processed a relative trickle of African asylum seekers. So Malta was itself a victim to this, he suggested. It was a power game: Northern Europe bullied southern Europe. Southern Europe fought within itself and with or against North Africa. The big stepped on the small, and the small stepped on the smaller. The migrants themselves were at the bottom. Here, too, shit rolls downhill. -- [2]

[1] http://www.ibanet.org/Article/Detail.aspx?ArticleUid=B51C02C...

[2] see the book: "Windfall: the booming business of global warming" by McKenzie Funk.

[3] http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontex

edit: as usual, I'm not writing this because I advocate this position, or think that it has any moral or ethical merit. But I think it is good to clearly understand that this is already happening and it will almost certainly get worse the further we get into this century.


And I did not write what I did because I'm unaware that those that make the argument that "it would be cheaper to adapt" never publicly add "... for us", because the argument gets a lot less palatable if you admit that your plan is to let the peoples of the developing world drown or starve to death...


There was a good discussion of this aspect of the problem at Intelligence Squared: http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/past-debates/item/6...


What is your point? That it could somehow be more economically worthwhile to build a levy than deal with the underlying cause to the ocean rising? If that's correct than you honestly have 0 business weighing in on this decision in any way. At what point in your world does it become "economically viable" to save civilization?


There's a cost to preventing it and a cost to protecting ourselves from it. One of them must be cheaper. We already make seawalls to protect against tsunamis rather than somehow trying to weld all the fault lines back together. That's because it's cheaper and serves the same goal.


There's also a significant unknown cost from the level of uncertainty surrounding the effect of climate change. It could be drastic, or it could be mild. We don't know, but we're rolling the dice anyway due to inaction.


That's only if the goal is to stop the water from breaching the land, though. That should not be the goal, and if it is, at what point does the goal finally become preventing the water from rising in the first place?


Mikegioia - what harm is sea level rise if it doesn't cover our valuable land? Covering the land is the only reason we're worried about it.


I think the harm is that it would continue to rise and we still haven't done anything to treat the underlying cause. Then you enter an arms race by building levys/dams/dikes and we're still just treating the symptoms.


That can just buy you time to move inland. We'll always have places to go to, just won't want to move too fast.




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