Maybe you guys who have a "it's not about the money attitude" won't join me on this but I wouldn't want someone with two thirds of my skill getting the same salary as me. Different people do different jobs to different levels. Bringing ethnicity and gender into this debate is the boogie man which is supposed to make you sit upright but with such affirmative action in the workplace these days employers are the same. Better workers should get better paid.
That is precisely the point. People with similar qualifications should have similar salaries. The "not great" trends implies salaries were correlated with something other than merit and qualifications.
That's not true. There is a market for labor that is constantly in flux based on supply and demand. Let's say that you were hired when there was excess supply and limited demand, you might have settled for a reasonably middle-of-the-curve salary. Fast forward to today where it's much harder to hire and all of a sudden, fresh grads can command salaries that might be equal to what someone with 2-3 years of experience was previously offered.
In addition, if you are hurting for someone in order to hit a deadline, it might just make sense to pay unreasonably as long as the numbers still work out.
>Fast forward to today where it's much harder to hire and all of a sudden, fresh grads can command salaries that might be equal to what someone with 2-3 years of experience was previously offered.
Perhaps -- and existing salaries should be adjusted to reflect that.
Exactly. If companies don't adjust existing salaries to reflect that, then they are basically telling their employees to quit because the best way to get a "raise" is to switch companies.
But of course they won't, because salary information isn't available, so it is difficult for employees to make these decisions.
In other words, companies can systematically distort the free market in labour by withholding information about the true salaries it offers from its employees.
The door doesn't swing both ways though - people don't get a salary cut when supply later exceeds demand. If you wanted a salary system that did respond to job market fluctuations, you'd have to open up to the possibility of getting cut pay.
Inertia can often set in especially if you're someone who is not very vocal about asking for a raise or keeping track of how in-demand your skills are.
How about: People with similar performance should have similar salaries. I've seen qualified and capable people add no value, and less qualified people hustle to perform well.
Results are hard to quantify. You can jump on a successful project and skew your contribution factor. But what if you are working on important tooling that requires difficult problem solving. This important tooling might not be quantifiable directly like, say, an advertisement framework. It may, however, be more valuable in the long term.
I agree. I also agree that using a spreadsheet to determine this is quite difficult. I'm not saying that Google is in the right here. I'm just saying that Google's own metric for software engineer levels is not a statement of ability.
why would you care if they're making as much as you?
Case 1: You're making as much as you want (given relevant factors)
Therefore you're fine, why are you complaining
Case 2: You're not making as much as you want
Isn't your beef with your boss for not paying you more, instead of with your coworker? Ask for a raise
Though I guess the core is you wouldn't want to work in a place where there's restrictions against you getting a raise (which equal pay could theoretically do if the rules are restrictive enough)
As a side note, two thirds of your skill? How would you define that really? Are you able to gauge your coworker's skill levels with that amount of granularity?
