Telling someone that they are sticking their fingers in their ear
(strongly implying that they're acting like a child) and then
telling them to "level up" clearly conveys vitriol.
I think @csvan shared an immature opinion, and I'm happy to stand by that.
It's not a personal attack. Everyone has shared immature or half-informed opinions; it's a human thing to do. Do I think @csvan is a bad person? I sincerely doubt it.
Vitriol means "bitterness or cruelty". Why do you think it vitriolic for me to treat @csvan's comments as immature?
He made his comments because he considers himself a good guy, defending meritocracy. I'm making my comments because there's plenty of evidence of flawed assumptions rotting away underneath that meritocracy. I'm not angry with him, or bitter, and I don't want to hurt his feelings. All I want to do is change his mind, and whoever else reads this thread. Yours too.
This is a post about Javascript. Let's talk about that...
No, this is a post about "JS The Right Way" and all it entails, authors, visual design, and content, including the list of people to follow. Stop deflecting.
...my own opinion is that I'm sick of hearing about women's plight in the first world.
The "first world" comment is red herring; just because a baby dies or a bomb goes off in some distant country doesn't mean we should ignore lesser problems closer to home. That leaves you being "sick of hearing about women's plight". If you were just bored of hearing about it you'd just stop listening, so this is something else.
Am I wrong? Does hearing about the tech industry being inhospitable to women make you angry? If so, why?
I had the displeasure of reading most of what you wrote and am writing this to convince you of something:
Please stop. Your SJW politics is off topic and in my opinion; utterly trivial nonsense. You were out-argued and still you found it in yourself to write more damage control comments.
I'm certain the reason people on HN don't call you out on this more often is the latent fear of being shadowbanned due to political correctness.
You made this your personal little soapbox and your posts reek of entitlement. Stop.
I disagree. If you'd like to explain how you believe that, I'm happy to listen, but my guess is that since you're using 'SJW' as a snarl-word you've read this entire thread through the filter of confirmation bias.
Your SJW politics is off topic...
Explain how. The topic is the page linked to (with a nudge towards what might be of interest to hackers), not just one aspect of the page, but the entire page... author, design, and content including the list of who to follow.
It's your choice whether you want to narrow your conversation to just the programming language aspects of that page, but I don't see how you justifiably claim I'm off-topic.
It's not a personal attack. Everyone has shared immature or half-informed opinions; it's a human thing to do. Do I think @csvan is a bad person? I sincerely doubt it.
Vitriol means "bitterness or cruelty". Why do you think it vitriolic for me to treat @csvan's comments as immature?
He made his comments because he considers himself a good guy, defending meritocracy. I'm making my comments because there's plenty of evidence of flawed assumptions rotting away underneath that meritocracy. I'm not angry with him, or bitter, and I don't want to hurt his feelings. All I want to do is change his mind, and whoever else reads this thread. Yours too.
No, this is a post about "JS The Right Way" and all it entails, authors, visual design, and content, including the list of people to follow. Stop deflecting. The "first world" comment is red herring; just because a baby dies or a bomb goes off in some distant country doesn't mean we should ignore lesser problems closer to home. That leaves you being "sick of hearing about women's plight". If you were just bored of hearing about it you'd just stop listening, so this is something else.Am I wrong? Does hearing about the tech industry being inhospitable to women make you angry? If so, why?