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The entire point of decades of research, and the above article, is that next to nobody can reliably tell you in advance which stocks are "the dogs." I'm glad for you, but if you want to convince me your active funds can reliably beat the market you would need to provide me a lot more data, as you are swimming upstream against a raging torrent of empirical research.



Where do the Rothschilds keep their money not in Index funds but in actively managed IT's RIT Capital Partners has done very nicely.

And Mr Buffet's investment company has beaten wall street for decades.

You are believing all that advertising the index fund managers are putting out and your bank is aggressively selling you.


> And Mr Buffet's investment company has beaten wall street for decades.

The difference is that he has significant inside information into many of his investments. He deeply researches the companies involved, talks to their owners, etc. He is far smarter than your average investor but he also purchases companies with far more information than your average investor.


This is a great point. Warren doesn't just hand his money over, he buys a controlling share and starts telling companies what to do. Very different from a passive investor.


It's not clear to me whether you meant to accuse Mr. Buffet of criminal behavior, here. There is certainly public information that is harder to get than other public information, but trading on inside information is a crime.


Public / Private information is only an issue when companies are publicly traded.

If you go to buy a private company you can get a lot of non public information. The same thing happens when you try and take a public company private with the caveat that you can only use that information to back out of a deal not make your first offer. AKA, you get to do an audit after the terms where agreed upon and only get to back out of you discover major issues.


Right.


I suspect jayvanguard is not talking about Berkshire Hathaway's public company investments (for which I'm sure Buffett does not use material non-public information) but Berkshire Hathaway's private company investments and acquisitions. These make up more than half the company's market cap, I believe.


not a first he didn't its only when you fund get that's big you have to start taking big positions. And fund mangers out and talk to companies - do you think that Neil Wollford does'nt have similar access

And Tesco didn't work out to well for him anyone who follows the markets could have told you that the supermarket where doing lots of dodgy stuff


The very name Berkshire Hathaway came from a failing textile company that Buffet bought control of. Incidentally, he regards it as the biggest investment mistake he ever made.

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkshire_Hathaway#History


> And Mr Buffet's investment company has beaten wall street for decades.

Buffett himself says that you the average joe should invest in an index fund.


> Mr Buffet's investment company has beaten wall street for decades.

Berkshire hasn't really done very well since 2000. He's kind of coasting on past reputation at this point.


And the article misses the down side of index funds tracking errors and having to keep funds univested to account for redemptions and the fact that some types of investments hare hard to run as an index fund PE and VC

Index funds are usfull for some investors for some of their investments but they are not the holy grail.


How is any of that relevant to the central point (that no mutual funds beat the market in the long-term)?




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