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I have to say we are thinking of different definitions of religious.


Then what exactly is your definition of religious? Does it somehow exclude the hundreds of millions of Christians who believe in the rapture (41% of all Americans, 52% of Americans in the South)? If so, then that's some creative gerrymandering and I'd love to see your rationalization and sources!

http://www.pewresearch.org/daily-number/jesus-christs-return...

By the year 2050, 41% of Americans believe that Jesus Christ definitely (23%) or probably (18%) will have returned to earth.

http://magazine.good.is/articles/more-than-40-percent-of-ame...

More Than 40 Percent of Americans Believe the Rapture Is Coming

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/01/christ-second-comin...

How Many U.S. Christians Believe Christ's 'Second Coming' Will Happen Soon? More Than You May Think (SURVEY)

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/05/world-ending-...

Hurry Up And Wait for the Rapture

In the South, a full 52 percent of those polled predicted that JC's return is imminent. Those figures come from a June 2010 poll from the Pew Research Center for People & the Press.

http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/entry/think_only_a_few...

Think Only a Few Fools Believe in the Rapture? Think Again.

In other words, a substantial portion of the American public—more than 4 out of 10—disagrees with the May 21 Rapture freaks only with respect to the date and some of the details of Jesus’ return. Think of that stat the next time you’re assured by some liberal theologian that the arguments of contemporary atheists are directed against targets that no longer exist.


I remember media reporting a survey of children which "discovered" that a full 1/4 of children under the age of 12 had been involved with committing armed robbery in the UK.

There were some methodological flaws including asking children in groups what were their experiences of crime.

Turns out kids like to maintain social standing with over kids through exaggeration.

Who knew.

Yes there are morons out there who think God is personally going to save them first as they will be closest to the altar. But most of my problem with religion is not religion - it's lying and power grabbing and manipulation and deceit and murder and social entrapment and the inertia of crowds.

Religion corrals this behaviour but it's humans not religion that does it. If you want to convert others beware of your own motivations. They won't be different to those of religion. Because you aren't different. And that's my point.


Please don't pursue religious flamewars on HN.




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