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> A number of logistical reasons prevents us from moving the machines to another location which might offer space/power for free, so let's not allow the conversation to go that way.

and there's no way that overcoming those logistical reasons would be cheaper than $20,000? at all? okay, well then, I guess that limits your options doesn't it.



Moving many machines and reconfiguring networks and setups is far from 'free'. And as others have said, frequent physical access is a necessity, so the new location would have to be within a commuting distance of the current one if you want your core devs to keep working the way they do.


It certainly seems rather unlikely that moving the machines to another location would reduce the expenses to $0.

I can well imagine that there would be a lot of difficulty in moving an large eclectic collection of old machines into a modern data center, and that such an undertaking might be extremely expensive.


Maybe not to zero, but what about from $0.14/kWh to $0.06/kWh?

(I don't actually know what they currently pay)


The answer is in the second line of your post. We don't know the details of their situation. But somebody who does know says that there are good reasons not to move. Doesn't seem that implausible that he might be right.


I don't think any of us truly have a problem with OpenBSD being unwilling to move their machines. We have a problem with OpenBSD being unwilling to move their machines, offering practically zero explanation why, while simultaneously asking for strangely large sums of money "because they can't move their machines".

If it wasn't for those three elements coming together, we wouldn't give a damn.


"Mom, I need $1000. Right now. For...reasons."


> while simultaneously asking for strangely large sums of money

It's not a strangely large sum for what they need it for.




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