Presumably they can mete out secret criminal punishments for violating national ...

csense · on Nov 6, 2013

> mete out secret criminal punishments for violating national security, directly to whoever they gave the NSL to

I've read that in the case of the NSA wiretaps, companies were directly threatened with having their executives sent to prison if the taps were disrupted or revealed.

_dp9d · on Nov 6, 2013

Surely Apple can hide behind corporate person-hood and just say "The corporation did it, not any person..."

rsynnott · on Nov 6, 2013

In previous cases, notably Qwest, they've had to go to court.

rayiner · on Nov 6, 2013

Citation?

MichaelGG · on Nov 6, 2013

None. I'm just assuming if they sent a such a secret gag order it wouldn't be very effective if companies could just ignore it.