There is no need for him to be melodramatic; all I want is a name.

I'll upvote him for it if he is really that scared of being downvoted. Hell, if he is downvoted to oblivion for giving us a name of somebody killed because of Manning's leaks, I'll say something that will get me downvoted to oblivion as well. If he's hellbanned for giving me a name, I'll nuke my account. Call it a "karma suicide pact".

He won't give us a name because he doesn't have one.

Suppose all that is true. You're still wrong to be rude. It degrades the discourse and violates the rules of this site.

Besides, tzs wasn't talking about karma. He was talking about getting shouted down.

He's afraid of being shouted down... so he makes a post about how HN 'can't handle the truth'(tm)? That's a weird way to avoid being "shouted down".

So you're fighting melodrama with more melodrama? Well done.

Uh, you are the one being melodramatic here, and childish, and arguing strictly from emotion.

You are trying to suggest the really vapid idea (over and over and over) that because no "names" are being supplied by one side (in a realm where divulging names might be harmful in itself), then no harm was done.

Hey, I'm a big supporter of transparency and whistleblowing activites.

And I still say to people behaving like you - do you have any clue whatsoever how illogical you sound?

If he wants to tell me that people were killed because of Manning, then he is going to need to do better than "I feelz it". He has absolutely no evidence, only shit that sounds good in his head. The DOD itself cannot even find any evidence of specific harm to other parties caused by Manning.

I don't really want a name, I want anything at all more substantial than "I can totally imagine it going down like this". That is the same shit we've been hearing from day one. It isn't falsifiable, it is worthless. But he has nothing more, nothing but a regurgitated propaganda line. I'm not going to apologize for being mildly pissed about that.