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So Google just released a laptop that is actually better than an MBA and you think Apple shouldn't take Google seriously? Good thing you're not running Apple.


>actually better than an MBA

Okay, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The Chromebook does have a nice screen, but...

- The Chromebook is almost half a pound heavier that the Air.

- It only has USB 2.0, not 3.0 like the Air.

- It has just a 32GB SSD, the Air has 128GB/256GB/512GB.

- It has just 5 hours of battery, compared to 7 hours with the Air.

- It only has Bluetooth 3.0, not 4.0 like the Air.

- It still starts at $100 more expensive that the Air.


Funny to read someone defending Apple based on hardware specs when Apple lovers told us for years that Apple killed specs because no one care about them and that hardware should be judged on its beauty and slickness and the UX of its software which is where the Pixel does indeed shine. As for the 32 GB, the Pixel comes with 1TB of google drive and a "save to Google drive" option.


>Apple killed specs because no one care about them and that hardware should be judged on its beauty and slickness and the UX

And you know why this works? Because Apple puts sufficiently high specs in their machines so the user doesn't have to think about it, because it doesn't stall or perform tasks slowly.

Besides, this is HN. It's an objective discussion, not a marketing one.

>beauty and slickness and the UX of its software which is where the Pixel does indeed shine

I can't speak for the Pixel here, but OSX is the best OS I've ever used so I would be surprised to see a browser-only OS match that.

As for hardware, the Air is by far the best-designed laptop I've ever seen. I know people are praising the Pixel in this regard but to me it just looks like another ThinkPad. And as far that grey bar jutting out? Come on.

>As for the 32 GB, the Pixel comes with 1TB of google drive

I knew this would be brought up but I didn't want to bash Drive in my last reply. But here we go...

Somebody shared a single .png imagine with me this morning on Drive. I went into the Drive folder they shared it in, it's empty. I reload the web interface, folder is still empty. I try to search for the file name, it's not there. I reload the page again, still can't see the file in the folder, type the file name in the search box, and it finally appears in the search bar and I can open it. When I'm done I go back out, and it still doesn't appear in the folder it's in. The only way I can access this file is now to memorize the file name and search every time.

Not somewhere I'm willing to put hundreds of GBs of data just yet.

And something that's not brought up enough: data privacy. Google employees can view hundreds of GBs of your personal files, photos, documents, etc. on Drive.

With an SSD you know exactly who can access your files, and you can still choose to back up to a cloud service that actually offers encryption if you so wish (which I do).

Drive will most likely never offer encryption because Google makes its money from knowing as much about you as possible.


That Google drive could be problematic in a few places. China, for instance. Or, say, remote Montana. Hawaii might suffer from bad latency (or not, I don't know). The Cloud still isn't electricity-reliable worldwide, and until it is, you might want to have your data locally. (And even electricity isn't reliable worldwide...)


it still has just a webbrowser as the os, less battery life and is more expensive. Those things add alot to the user experience. Its a very nice device but its not better than an MBA or other good Ultrabooks.


Forget specs, lets talk about software: The MacBook air is a real computer. You can compile your code on it. IT has an operating system. You can play games.

The pixel is just a web browser.

The correct thing to make the comparison to is the iPad, but even the iPad is more functional, since it can run apps that aren't browsers.

From a usability viewpoint, the pixel is kinda laughable... it's so arbitrarily limited, it isn't even really usable unless you're on a network.


> From a usability viewpoint, the pixel is kinda laughable... it's so arbitrarily limited, it isn't even really usable unless you're on a network.

Stated by someone who obviously hasn't used Chrome OS.

Also, it's trivial for a developer or semi-technical user to install Crouton and setup a build environment or whatever else.


Specs or not 1 lbs heavier (if true) and 2 hours less in battery time are important to consider.


- It runs Google

(It's Google's 'Chrome')


the pixel might be on par in terms of build quality but its still a much less usefull laptop due to chromeos, bad battery life and a higher price.


I think Apple should take every competitor seriously and I am sure they do.

My point is that Google has a history of being unable to ship anything properly. And until we see them do so and with a sizable profit margin then they shouldn't be considered in the same league as Apple. And the important skill is not making the laptop it's in the supply chain management.


You just said "nobody will or should take them seriously" and now you're saying Apple should take them seriously. Google shipped tons of products properly, if you're talking about nexus devices, they don't even advertise those much, they're more of a testbed for what's coming.


No. Apple should take every competitor seriously no matter how insignificant. The rest of us however shouldn't.

And we are talking about hardware here. They have consistent failures in shipping hardware.


I'm the happy owner of a galaxy nexus and nexus 4. Pretty awesome shipped hardware.


I'm sure there's a couple hundred thousand other people like you.

That's not what taligent is talking about.

Apple ships tens of millions of devices in a quarter.

Google's never had a hardware hit, not even close.


Let's be clear about this, Google's really been in the hardware business for about what.. a year, maybe 1.5? Any product pre that was developer oriented. I don't think you can expect a company to be shipping 10 million units when it has really only started to tackle general market hardware, let alone compare them to a 30+ year old manufacturer. For starters the market adoption has barely begun in the public eye.

That said though, they are starting to do what matters most, build great products... and that is what is the start to market acceptance. Guaranteed success? No... but certainly looking like they are figuring it out.


IT's not even as good as the iPad, which unlike the pixel, can run more than just a web browser.

The iPad costs about 1/3 the price, and it does more and is better made.

Comparing this to the MBA is like comparing a feature phone to a netbook.




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