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This is anecdotal, so I guess you can take it with a grain of salt.

But as someone from Vancouver who has visited SF quite a bit, SF always seemed to have more homelessness (it does have a warmer climate than Van) and more parts that smelled really bad. I might be desensitised to it already, though. Also, throughout my time living in Vancouver, I've never witnessed a robbery/theft/crime, whereas visiting SF last month I witnessed a random theft from a homeless at a Walgreens and they were really abusive towards him.

What I'm saying is, it still feels like a different country with a different culture, instead of it only being a west coast thing.



I lived downtown in Vancouver for 5 years - I think I had my car broken into about 200 times, no exaggeration. It got so bad I just left the damn thing open.

Everything in the US is basically X 10, so you have to allow for that in the similarities.


Wow. That's awful. Sorry to hear.

I only know a few people with cars in Vancouver, and none ever had their cars broken into except one who lived on the Drive.

Now, I know a bunch of people who own bicycles. Vancouver is notorious for their bicycle thieves!


I tried that too, but then I discovered people will sleep in unlocked cars.




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