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Despite the limited life experience of some Chicagoans and New Yorkers who have not left their enclaves and thus have come to think they are the center of the world, these cities are not actually "most of the rest of the country", as I said.

Perhaps their citizens can not emerge from their bubbles far enough to believe it, but it's true.

The bay has regular bus service, sidewalks and bike lanes. Also trains. If you drive, you can do so from one place to another and find a parking place.

As someone who doesn't like to deal with cars, when I lived there it was very nice compared to the rest of the country, at least the 30 or so cities and towns I have lived in and the few hundred that I have stayed in for more than a few days, most of which it was extremely troublesome to get about without a car, and unlike San Francisco.




This is a discussion about public transit, why was the ad hominem attack necessary, or the blatant straw-man stereotyping? Has anyone here indicated that they live in NYC/Chicago and haven't been elsewhere?

FWIW, I've lived in 9 cities in 3 countries across 2 continents. This includes San Francisco, and I can tell you, I've lived in metro areas substantially smaller than the SFBay and had better transit. There are many places in the US substantially worse, but there are also many others with a similar density profile or population size that are substantially better.


Look at the metros of comparable size, then make your comparison. Yes, the Valley, as poor as it is, is better than e.g. Springfield, Illinois. So?




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