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He put in a huge amount of effort to derail the discussion. Pretend that where it says "wasn't able to recover everything" the post said "wasn't able to recover everything from Dropbox, and had to resort to getting external backups mailed to him". Same terrible problem on Dropbox's end, suddenly no need to waste pages arguing about 'responsibility'.

He brought out the part of the HN crowd that wants things to be on-topic and/or useful instead of user-blaming. :)



> He brought out the part of the HN crowd that wants things to be on-topic and/or useful instead of user-blaming

Right. You didn't obviously read my comments, did you? Maybe you just skimmed them and chose to jump on the band-wagon?

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4963826

I'll quote the most relevant and definitely constructive/useful parts here you don't have to bother with the links if you don't want to. If you do, please slow down and read it all. Then think about the idea of loosing, I don't know, a year's worth of work and blaming someone else for it.

Here it is (reformatted because HN does not have a much-needed block-quote markup):

    My approach for Dropbox on both Windows and OSX is to have the 
    Dropbox folder on a drive that will never see development work, 
    even if that means creating a separate partition for it. 
    
    In most cases the system drive works fine (you do have separate 
    system and data drives on your machines, right?).
    
    This forces a COPY operation rather than a file MOVE if you 
    drag-and-drop files into any Dropbox folder. Which means that 
    everything in the Dropbox folder could be trashed tomorrow and 
    nothing whatsoever would be lost.
Do this TODAY and unless you have massive local loss of data you don't have to worry about Dropbox loosing any of your data at all. Not one bit. If that isn't constructive I don't know what it.

Then I also said:

    FEATURE REQUEST: It would be very nice if Dropbox client software 
    could have an option to auto-magically COPY files in and out of 
    Dropbox rather than allowing any files to be moved. 
    
    The above-mentioned hack works fine but it'd be nice to not have to 
    use it. Also, I'd venture to guess that most Dropbox users don't do 
    this, which opens them to unintended loss.
In other words, if Dropbox could implement the suggested approach EVERYONE, engineer or not, would be spared of total data loss due to something going on at Dropbox. Local data loss, of course, is still your responsibility.

And then, trying to understand further, I asked this:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4963768

So, I'll say that overall I've been pretty constructive. If anyone adopts my approach of storing their Dropbox folder in an unused drive they are almost guaranteed that Dropbox can't loose their data. That is worth money.

Please point me to a link or blog post with your immediate solutions to this problem. I'd love to compare notes. Maybe there's a better approach. Always interested in learning. I am sure there are lots of people who, tonight, might be interested in adopting your approach to ensuring that accidental data loss by a remote service of any kind does not mean total data loss locally.

Thanks.


I read your posts. The constructive parts are minor compared to the derail, and you easily could have avoided the enormous argument. Also, do you really see no downside to the fact that you have basically reimplemented manual sync on top of dropbox? It throws out most of Dropbox's safety features just because they aren't perfect, and throws out half the ease of use.




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