You know how Facebook became a popular employer among new CS grads, by paying more than anyone else?
You know that book/movie, "The Firm", in which the new law school graduate gets a surprisingly lucrative job offer? (spoilers) It turns out that the reason is Crime.
Not always- see Costco. But in a world where every company is trying to minimize expenses to maximize profits, paying significantly above market is at the very least an indicator that there may be something fishy going on.
It's a valid business strategy to hire the best and brightest in the field, and to pay higher than average to attract that talent -- if you can afford it.
"Big law" firms are a good example of this too: they pay way more than some random family law practice.
The "if you can afford it" is pulling all the weight there. Why can certain companies afford it more than others in the same market? The context of this thread is suggesting that those companies are doing more crime or crime-adjacent activities.
Sure, I understand the thread's implication and I'm certainly not saying that it's never true.
But some companies have the choice of hiring, for example, one really great engineer for $500k, and one very solid one for $250k.
Another organization might want to hire three engineers for $250k.
A third, perhaps, wants to hire seven at $100k.
They're all spending the same amount of money, but not every company can "afford" that spend -- especially if they need several engineers working on unique feature sets.
I just think it's a leap to say that every company paying more than average market value is criminal.
Kirkland is a Seattle 'burb and IT/software pay in Seattle is competitive (FAANGM, etc.).
Costco has a rep for paying their cashiers, food handlers, and stocker teams well, comparatively speaking. Their IT teams are mostly outsourced, like all large companies, and aren't impressive by Seattle rates.
How I understood OP - is that Costco pays better than other big retailers. Also probably not only for IT department, but on average (including cashiers and such).
But the context of the conversation is white collar crime, corruption, or unfair practices, and paying significantly above market rate.
Costco is a very egalitarian organization. They pay is flatter across the entire hierarchy. Lower rank people are paid more, higher ranked people are paid less. They are a super ethical organization, I'm a big fan (though they could do better at incentivizing innovation).
It's just not the same pattern as paying gigantic amounts of money to hoard up "CS grads" or lawyers.
Low ethics high pay? Higher margins from lower ethics?
At some point does complacency with scammers become racketeering or criminals conspiracy? Knowledge is an element of crime and they know people are being scammed yet look away from it.
Any company offering above market compensation is engaging in illegal activity?
To quote Randall Munroe, "Correlation doesn't imply causation, but it does waggle its eyebrows suggestively and gesture furtively while mouthing 'look over there'."
Facebook was never "the hacker company". Zuck was a scammer himself when it was still TheFacebook.
Zuckerberg: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuckerberg: Just ask
Zuckerberg: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuckerberg: People just submitted it.
Zuckerberg: I don't know why.
Zuckerberg: They "trust me"
Zuckerberg: Dumb fucks
You know that book/movie, "The Firm", in which the new law school graduate gets a surprisingly lucrative job offer? (spoilers) It turns out that the reason is Crime.