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Insofar as this article is about the 4 execs leaving Apple, this is a total non-story and the "What the heck is going on at Apple" is just click bait:

- Lisa Jackson, Apple’s vice president of environment, policy and social initiatives, and general counsel Kate Adams, are set to retire. While these may be high level execs, they don't really have much to do with the overall direction and success of the company. And given the change in the political environment you've seen tons of changes in roles like these at many companies in the past 11 months.

- Alan Dye, vice president of human interface design, is leaving to join Meta as its chief design officer. Sounds like he won't really be missed: https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-.... Assuming he was responsible for Liquid Glass, I say good riddance.

- John Giannandrea, senior vice president of machine learning and AI strategy, is also retiring. He had basically already been demoted, taken off leading Siri due to Siri's competitive failures.

So yeah, it's pretty obvious that Apple is behind the AI wave, but honestly, they may end up having the last laugh given how much backlash there is from consumers about trying to shoehorn AI into all these places where it's just an annoyance.





There's more than just 4 execs and imo an unprecedented level of turnover for a historically very stable company. It’s multiple senior leaders across legal, policy, AI, design, hardware, and operations leaving within a short period, making it one of Apple’s most significant leadership shakeups in years, which is why several outlets are finding it newsworthy.

1) John Giannandrea, Senior VP of Machine Learning & AI Strategy, Apple’s AI chief is leaving in 2026 after setbacks with Siri, his entire team is being reorganized and cut.

2) Alan Dye, VP of Design and responsible for liquid glass left for Meta Bloomberg

3) Kate Adams, the top lawyer and general counsel is leaving

4) Lisa Jackson, VP of Policy & Social Initiatives also leaving

5) Johny Srouji, hardware/chip head, said he is "seriously considering leaving" which is really interesting seeing as he actually said that out loud for press to report on.

6) Jeff Williams, COO retired

7) Luca Maestri the CFO left ealier this year

8) Ruoming Pang the AI foundation leader left for Meta

9) Ke Yang, head of Siri search also left for Meta.

A lot of other AI engineers have also left.


1, 8 and 9 leaving is expected. They failed at their jobs.

3 and 4 literally don't matter.

5, 6 and 7 probably left / are going to leave because they got news they wouldn't get the CEO role once Cook retires.

2 is the big surprise that raises the most eyebrows.

Seems it's mostly succession drama with a side of failure @ AI.


Also the rumor I heard from a friend at Apple (hearsay, obviously, and an anecdote to boot) was that Alan Dye was pretty unpopular among designers.

Yeah, I'd definitely classify Dye in the "failed at their jobs" category alongside 1, 8, and 9.

Bad AI is a venial sin at Apple, but bad design is mortal. Or at least, it used to be.


i wonder if Dye is the self-important personality who parked his audi r8 in handicapped parking routinely in front of IL1.

if not Dye, then apologies to Dye for looking like that person.

also, there's this.

https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-...


And users too!

It's worth reading Gruber's writeup on Dye's departure - it really sounds like it will be a net positive for Apple that he's leaving: https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job

I was reading and 2 (Srouji) is 61 years old. While that is not too old, but that does explain why he may not be choice for next CEO (besides any other things). You want someone to helm the ship for a decade.

> 1, 8 and 9 leaving is expected. They failed at their jobs.

Siri search is pretty good. (You mostly see it as the autocomplete in the Safari address bar.)


And 7 left January 1st, so I don’t know if I would include them in talks of an exodus.

Apple is (for a very long time) essentially a hardware company so all the contrived drama about not embracing AI is perhaps Apple style accumulation of data as it refines the sequence of "neural cores" to efficiently serve wherever the industry is careening.

While Apple wants its hardware to best run popular apps (AI included), it's premature to presume these people leaving for Meta (Dye in particular) have any impact other than tribal knowledge in their departures.

(disclaimer: was an engineer in an inner sanctum of apple for several years)


- vice president of human interface design

- senior vice president of machine learning and AI strategy

If so many people hates/complains on liquid glass and Apple Intelligence, I guess the resign will be a good thing.


“many people” are mostly stupid (go to your local dmv to see “many people”) so that it irrelevant. sales are through the roof, profits same, cash on hand to buy many countries, life is good…

To be fair there are reasons to expect a sample of people from the DMV to be significantly less stupid than the population average.

You are responding to someone who thinks password protected PDFs through emails are secure

:) for mom&pop docs it is top-notch opsec

> And given the change in the political environment you've seen tons of > changes in roles like these at many companies in the past 11 months.

Foolishly, some of us still hoped Apple was better than that. And definitely better than this:

"Apple is bringing in Meta chief legal officer Jennifer Newstead to lead government affairs after Adams retires and serve as its new general counsel."




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