I prefer creative forces, but life is not perfect. Every side is a subversive force. I just don't want to be on the receiving side as much as possible. Since what I consider subversive forces(Iran,Russia, China, Islam) try to change my world, I'm against it. I'm fine with US being a subversive force even if I consider some parts of it as a very negative and damaging.

Just wanted to point out that Iran, Russia, China, and Islam have orders of magnitude less power over you than your own political leaders. We should all hold our political leaders accountable when they break the law and ignore the constitution. "subversive forces" is a deflection at best, Orwellian doublespeak at its worst.

It depends on what your motives are. Every evil personality you hate started out first as a subversive force. Do you know what the secret end goal of your subversive force flavor-of-the-month is?