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I expected Kimmel to have somehow criticized Kirk, a dubious enough reason to pull the show. But this isn’t even that. Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial, but it’s ludicrous to suggest it’s offensive. That paired with comments criticizing the Dear Leader were enough. This is a new low in corporate cowardice toward Trump bullying.

Terrible precedent aside, how could Disney think that capitulating here will result in anything other than more attempts to control their programming in the short term?



He didn't even assert that the shooter was MAGA, only that MAGA did their best to distance themselves from him.


Is it possible that they wanted to pull the show and this was just the excuse they were looking for?


Why would a broadcaster want to pull a show and need an excuse to do so? Shows get cancelled all the time if the broadcaster decides that they're too expensive etc.


Unlikely they’d want to politicize the canceling of their show. Quiet and uncontroversial is better for ABC.


“Comments quoted in stories assert that the shooter was MAGA - maybe that’s somewhat controversial”

It was counter to what was reported by federal investigators the day before the show. He was deliberately spreading misinformation.


> We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it

Kimmel did not assert Mr. Robinson was anything he wasn't. Kimmel noted how some people are doing everything possible to distance themselves from Mr. Robinson.


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Correct, you did. You omitted the quote. If you choose to add meaning, or put words in Mr. Kimmel's mouth, that is your decision.

In any case, if you think such a statement is objectionable, then you would conclude many statements made by the current president would prevent any network from putting him on air, correct?


Yeah, when the president starts a television network, gets a broadcast license from the FCC (under which he must meet “public interest” requirements), spins up a late night program, and then begins deliberately spreading misinformation to score political points, then yes, threaten to revoke his license.


Why are you are ignoring the question? You are creating a hypothetical to ignore it.

Under your view, the networks, as they stand, should never have allowed him on the airwaves to begin with.


The president of the USA is a de facto “public interest” position. The burden of acting and speaking in the public interest is the whole dang job.


How’s the state of Fox’s license look to you? Or have they never ever spread misinformation for political purposes?


Have they ever spread information for political purposes?


How many examples are you looking for, and for what time period? I could probably list a few dozen examples scoped to just the last 24 hours. Looking further back this is a pretty well known example https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-dominion-lawsuit-trial-t...


You do realize I questioned if Fox ever spread anything else than misinformation.


You do realize that Kimmel‘s show is not a news show?

He can suggest whatever he wants.

Like the president suggests the extreme left is responsible for Kirk‘s murder.

No wait, the president didn’t suggest he claimed it as a fact.

Can’t wait for his cancellation.


AFAIK all information anybody had at the time was that he grew up in a good gun-loving Republican family and he'd written some silly memes on the shell casings.

The discord chats and his relationship with a trans woman were AFAIK not revealed yet, or at least were so new that they maybe hadn't made it to Kimmel's writers room.

That kind of problem gets a demand of a retraction, not a firing.

Contrast that to a Fox News host calling for mass executions of homeless people the other day (and since that day there have been multiple mass killings of homeless people). That guy got off with a thin apology.


To be specific, Brian Kilmeade deliberately moved the Overton window on mentally ill homeless people into holocaust territory.

“just kill ’em”

But the FCC accuses Kimmel of “alienating the audience”.


It's "Rules for thee but not for me," with these folks.

And it's not like it's a surprise either. As Sartre observed[0] decades ago:

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre

It's quite nauseating.

[0] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-...




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