Bada and Tizen. They've been trying for 15 years. Tizen in particular is as Linux as it gets. Long story short: it's not something the market wants.

> it's not something the market wants.

If it was just "the market" guiding things, there would be no need to lock things down against consumers, or pulling bait-and-switches with slowly closing down the previously open-source Android, would there?

Please learn to recognize when you are under attack.

If I recall correctly, Bada was already more locked down from the start, with app distribution only permitted with Samsung's approval. Otherwise I would have been interested in trying a Bada phone.

The market doesn't care what it's coded in, its just about end user convenience and usability.

Android is Linux based, and so is iOS. They focused on the UX and what it took.

It leaves it possible for linux to do it again.

Android does not use what we normally call a linux userspace. iOS is not at all linux based, although it is UNIX-like.

I went to go check my memory :)

Android is based off, and runs off a linux kernel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system). Android being modified in places including userspace is a fair point, but it's linux derived.

MacOS reminded me of it's BSD intermixings. Although the BSDs are separate from Linux, both were Unix alternatives. MacOS was downported to iOS. While iOS is not Linux at it's core, it's definitely based on an alternative to unix, similar to linux.

BSD references: https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Ma...

Interesting!

> Long story short: it's not something the market wants.

Who knows. Maybe this could change?

The market HAD changed to what it is now from what it was. Most handheld manufacturers had garbage mobile app platforms back in 2007. Something happened in January of that year and they all started coughing blood.

Yeah, they could call it Tizen or something.

Please spare me the sarcasm...