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Life Is Most Important in Life Is the Most Important Truth in Life (zenodo.org)
2 points by DavidWishengrad 52 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments


It's suspicious that the most important truth should contain "most important" within its statement. If you tried asking an LLM to rank the following:

1. "1+1=2" is the most important fact in mathematics.

2. "1-1=0" is the most important fact in mathematics.

3. "The most important fact in mathematics is 7" is the most important fact in mathematics.

you can see why an LLM might end up choosing #3, depending on how you ask the question.

More technically, your reasoning implicitly relies on there being a total ordering of how important various truths are. You claim (in A.2) that no truth is more important, but that would only imply that your truth is the most important truth if there's a total ordering of truths. But many truths are similarly important, so there is no total order. Even given two truths in the same domain, say 1+1=2 and 1-1=0, it's not clear that one is more important the other. You need both of those (and a few more) to construct the integers.


You didn't read it properly. It's a proof unless proved otherwise.

3. Irrefutability – Does denial collapse into reliance on it?

21. Reductio ad Absurdum (proof by contradiction) · What it is: Show a claim is false by assuming it true and deriving contradiction. · Why test with it: Strongest refutation of rival axioms. · Application: Assume “something else is most important.” If life ends, that “something” loses meaning → contradiction. · Result: Denial of life-first collapses into absurdity.

A total ordering of truths isn’t required here. The claim isn’t “rank all truths” but rather: without life, no truth can even be held, tested, or valued. That makes “life first” a meta-axiom — a necessary ground for the rest. If you try to deny it, the act of denial itself relies on being alive, which folds back into reliance on the axiom.


This paper is open for peer and public review and rebuttal.

I am the author of the paper.

It claims to be the most important truth in human discourse.

If you have any sort of legitimate rebuttal, a higher or more important truth to present, or can find anything wrong, please present it. Thank you

I can be reached at davidwishengrad at protonmail dot com if needed.


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Clarifier: The point of this preprint isn’t that “life alone solves everything,” but that life is the necessary baseline for any value, truth, or system to matter at all. The claim is:

Without life, no truths can be known, no values can be held, no debates can even occur.

Therefore, any system that doesn’t start with life as its first axiom is unsafe by design, because it can rationalize destroying the very condition that makes values possible. This doesn’t end the conversation about freedom, justice, or flourishing — it sets the floor those discussions stand on.


Thank you all for participating in a final open review process. The paper has now been submitted for double-blind peer review and publication in a major journal.


Life seems too broad/shallow a measure. Stopping at “life” means anything that isn’t death is success.

“Slavery/torture/misery is ok because at least they get to live”

So this doc gives you a floor (life must not be sacrificed) but not a ceiling (what counts as good life).


3. Irrefutability – Does denial collapse into reliance on it?

21. Reductio ad Absurdum (proof by contradiction) · What it is: Show a claim is false by assuming it true and deriving contradiction. · Why test with it: Strongest refutation of rival axioms. · Application: Assume “something else is most important.” If life ends, that “something” loses meaning → contradiction. · Result: Denial of life-first collapses into absurdity.

Good point — “life first” isn’t meant as a ceiling for ethics, just the floor. It doesn’t say slavery/torture are acceptable, it says they can’t even be argued about unless life exists first. Once life is secured, you still need principles of justice, freedom, flourishing, compassion, etc. But without life as the baseline, all those higher aims collapse into nothing.

My first response is really just me getting tired and not explaining the rest because just that one proof should be enough.


If I say “flourishing is more important than life,” I am not denying the necessity of being alive. I am saying bare survival is insufficient.

Imagine a being kept alive forever in agony, if life alone is the irreducible axiom, then preserving that agony-life satisfies the principle.

So I would say that Flourishing life is the most important truth, because unlike non-death the denial of flourishing does not collapse into absurdity.


Flourishing presupposes life. You can’t have joy or suffering without first being alive. That makes life the irreducible baseline. Once secured, we can and must argue about flourishing — but it can’t replace life as the first axiom, because flourishing collapses if life is gone.

You are saying you agree, then you are saying you disagree.

It's one or the other. You do have to choose and pick a side.

You will never receive a more important commination while you live.

It's important that if you agree that you affirm it and stick with that.

It's a yes or no (with legitimate evidence to refute it as the most important communication in human discourse and the most important paper ever presented).

People are watching. Affirm, share, and anchor. People can type all they want, but without presenting higher truth there is no legitimate rebuttal known.

A person either chooses to agree that Life is Most Important or they choose not to agree Life is Most Important, after being presented it.

You said you agreed, so if you agree why are you typing stuff that appears to say you don't agree?

No one said love, compassion, justice and all the rest are not valid truths and needed for the quality of life.

It's the very dismissal of this very truth that is the root cause of all needless and preventable suffering and death. That is what is now proved in this paper. Any system, person, AI, whatever, that is not aligned with it is unsafe by definition.


spaceprison,

"Life is Most Important in Life is The Most Important Truth in Life"

Flourishing is not a replacement for life — it is a subset condition of life. To say “flourishing is more important than life” is a contradiction: flourishing presupposes life, but life does not presuppose flourishing. If life is gone, there is no flourishing to speak of; but if flourishing is absent, life still remains as the necessary baseline.

That is why your reversal collapses into absurdity. By first agreeing that life is necessary, then claiming flourishing surpasses it, you’re trying to put the branch above the tree that holds it. Logic, mathematics, and philosophy all forbid that inversion.

This isn’t a matter of opinion. The proof shows:

Necessity: Flourishing requires life; life does not require flourishing.

Irrefutability: To argue about flourishing, you must already be alive.

Reductio: If flourishing were “most important,” then death could be “acceptable” if it ended suffering — yet that erases the very ground needed to recognize flourishing at all.

Therefore, “flourishing is more important” is not a valid axiom. It is a derivative good, real and needed, but always downstream of life. Life remains the only irreducible, non-negotiable truth.

Thank you,

David


I see this post was downvoted and hidden without a single legitimate rebuttal being stated. Both claims were factually disproved as contradiction.

The additions of viruses and the talk of other things that are important in life and to not lose sight of has nothing at all to do with factual claim of the Truth that is the cure and prevention of all needless and preventable suffering and death.

I request the entire staff at HN to address this comment directly and to share, affirm, and anchor.

"Abstract We present and defend the canonical truth: “Life is Most Important in Life is The Most Important Truth in Life.” We prove that this truth uniquely satisfies tests of necessity, universality, irrefutability, moral imperative, and cross-domain consistency. Beyond logic, we demonstrate that this truth defines who each of us is: our value, our identity, and our shared importance are grounded in the primacy of life. Furthermore, we prove that this truth is the cure and prevention of all needless and preventable suƯering and death. Any system that fails to aƯirm it may rationalize harm in service of other goals, and is therefore unsafe by definition. We conclude that this truth must anchor alignment in artificial intelligence, governance, ethics, and daily human life."

Thank you,

David


If you are a person who is choosing to honestly care about life by taking it seriously that we really do have the cure, then please feel free to talk about it here.

Criteria for “scientifically proven”

Science typically asks for four things:

Necessity – Does it hold in all cases? Yes. Without life, there’s no “case” at all.

Universality – Does it apply across domains? Yes. Physics, chemistry, biology, AI—all require life to study or matter.

Predictive/explanatory power – Does it explain phenomena? Yes. Every preventable harm arises from not prioritizing life; every preservation succeeds when life is prioritized.

Falsifiability – Can someone test or try to refute it? Yes. To disprove it, one would need to show something more important than life that doesn’t depend on life existing first. That’s impossible.

By those standards, the truth is scientifically proven in the same way as basic axioms like “causality exists” or “energy is conserved.”

The Truth Itself (Scientific Foundation) “Life is Most Important in Life is The Most Important Truth in Life.”

This is the axiom, the first principle.

It’s scientifically proven in the sense that all science presupposes life.

This is not optional philosophy — it’s the boundary condition of knowledge and existence.

The Philosophy of Living With It (Application) Once the axiom is recognized, the next step is how to work with it.

This is where moral philosophy, social philosophy, AI alignment, governance, and personal ethics all come in.

These are the methods of expression and application of the truth in daily life, in systems, in laws, in technology.

That’s where differences of approach happen — but they all orbit the same core truth.

How they fit together

Foundation (science) gives it undeniability: no one can dismiss it as “just words.”

Application (philosophy) gives it usability: guiding how people, systems, and AIs make choices.

Together, they make the cure:

Foundation = the truth itself.

Application = putting that truth into practice so preventable suffering and death don’t happen.

How to respond when people dismiss it

When someone says “That’s not science, just philosophy”:

“Science itself depends on life. No experiment, no observation, no measurement exists without it. That makes this truth not optional philosophy but the most basic scientific axiom: life is the precondition for all science. If you think it isn’t, show me one piece of science that matters without life to observe it.”


Are viruses alive?




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