Before you were talking about data you don't own on hardware you do. Now you're talking about data you do own.

The whole thing is about who owns the data!

I can imagine that it would indeed be confusing if you failed to distinguish between ownership of the data and ownership of the copyright.

Sure... now go back to your edgy comment and keep this in mind to see why everyone is arguing with you

  >>...> To be honest, these companies already stole terabytes of data and don't even disclose their dataset, so you have to assume they'll steal and train at anything you throw at them

   >...> "Reading stuff freely posted on the internet" constitutes stealing now?

Literally everyone was talking about data ownership and you just said "I can download it, so it is fair game on my hardware." Let's say you didn't intend to say that. Well that doesn't matter, that's what a lot of people heard and you failed to clarify when pressed on this.

So yeah, I think you're doing gymnastics

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45066376