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Honestly, I wouldn't ask Israelis or Palestinians for their opinion. I think the OSN should mandate and using peace forces:

- Establish a new, transitional government of Israel/Palestine, nominated by the UN

- Give citizenship to every Israeli and Palestinian for the whole territory

- Mandate a 50/50 ethnic quotas system in the military, police, judiciary and all government institutions, and minimum 30% ethnic quotas in every other employer

- Create a Truth and Reconcilliation Commission, modeled after JAR; it would figure out what reparations are needed to each citizen

- Mandate both hebrew and arabic as official languages, and teach every kid both in school

- Once things would settle down, after 1-2 years, run a new elections but with constitutional provisions (5-10 years) against dismantling the quotas

Heck, even US could do this unilaterally (just like British did), if they wanted to pursue human rights.



What a silly, unrealistic idea. No other country or coalition is going to launch a violent ground invasion of Israel and Palestine in order to impose peace terms on them. Protecting human rights in other countries is not our responsibility. They'll have to solve their own disputes one way or another.


No ground invasion is needed, not even serious economic sanctions for non-compliance. Just a simple phone call from American president, that Israelis are now free to fend themselves from "hostile Arabs", without US military aid (there's a precedent btw). After all, it's Israel's own responsibility to protect human rights, isn't it?


You think Israel would just collapse if the US stopped supporting them?


Who would support Israel? Who’s aircraft carriers would stand by?


The official doctrine of Israel is to nuke the whole region [1] rather than accept anything similar to what has been proposed above.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option


Research Israel’s independence war where Czechoslovakia contributed arms. It wasn’t until Nixon that Israel had American support.


Im talking about now, not 50 years ago.

Czechoslovakia doesn’t even exist. Who else would provide the support the US gives?


My point was that even without American support, Israel won its wars.


> Who would support Israel?

If the United States launched a land war on Israel and Palestine, Russia and China. It would be an opportunity to bog down the United States in the Middle East for another generation.


I haven't confirmed the numbers, but I saw an estimate of 75% of Israeli military funding came from foreign aid (primarily the US) and those numbers did not include the US sitting in the Mediterranean with ships intercepting rockets.

If they had to cut down their military to 25% they would collapse from outside attacks. Israel would probably figure out the funding so it wouldn't drop by that much though.


If you think it is important to your position, I recommend you look into confirming those numbers.

Israel is spending around 30 Billion/yr now US is currently giving them about 18 Billion/yr US historically gave them about 4 Billion/yr

US spending during the war is about 75% as much as internal spending, not 75% of the total.

If US turned off the money tap, Israel would go from winning several wars at once to having to pick its fights.


Thanks for the clarification on the numbers. I will take a look into them more.


Which "hostile arabs"? Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States want military cooperation with Israel to counter Iran. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, etc are too busy with their own affairs and have no desire to fight a unnecessarily destructive war.




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