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>I was really high on Gemini 2.5 Pro after release but I kept going back to o3 for anything I cared about

Same here. I was impressed by their benchmarks and topping most leaderboards, but in day to day use they still feel so far behind.



I use o3, openAI API and Claude Code. Genuinely curious what about Gemini 2.5 is so far behind?


I don’t think it is behind in anything. It is just harder to make obey and redefine the default system command. It is very verbose model by default.


It's not just much more verbose in general, it easily gets lost in verbosity. As in often trying to solve issues that aren't there. And when you try to make it focus, it doesn't get the issue at all.


I think that's most likely just your view, and not really based on evidence.




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