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Some men are stepping up. but others aren't.

Many women don't want to have kids because they can't find a qualified partner they feel will be a good dad and good husband.





This argument works both ways - many men can't find women they feel are qualified to be mothers.

+1.

I'm 38 and the overwhelming majority of women I had relationships with had the maturity of a teenager well in their 30s. Barely able to take care of themselves financially, mentally, physically, let alone of a family. I seriously felt, except once, I had daughters rather than significant others.

Mind you, I might've been unlucky, but the narrative that women are more mature than men, might be true on large statistics which are quickly lost on an anecdotal level.


I wont disclose the country, but basically every girl I dated in this place had this problem.

My last gf had a really high IQ and a very low EQ. I wish someone warned me about being single in your 30s.


That you've consistently chosen immature women to have relationships with tells us nothing about the average woman. You weren't unlucky, you specifically made choices that led to these outcomes.

Had you chosen women purely randomly, it'd be a different discussion, but you hadn't.

You've done the equivalent of consistently driving above the speed limit and subsequently complaining about the police being too eager to give out speeding tickets.


You have a valid point but you deliver it without any empathy or emotional intelligence.

Yes, I suspect that my mother being this kind of person, immature even at 50, made me feel at home with women like that.

In any case, I can't say that most of the other women I know is that much different in my area (Rome - Italy).

They are all more or less 35+ teenagers (the single ones).


I bet mature women are not available (already have partner or not looking for).

Most of them are not indeed.

>That you've consistently chosen immature women to have relationships with tells us nothing about the average woman

He's restating a complaint that's approximately as old as time. We've got records of roman male heads of household lamenting basically the same thing. He did not voice a novel or even close to novel-ish complaint.

>Had you chosen women purely randomly,

Have you met men? They're not exactly discerning except at the very tail end of the "yeah this one is worth giving a ring to" funnel. They don't necessarily have a perfect picture of what's available in the market but they're not wildly out of touch.


> He's restating a complaint that's approximately as old as time.

Heh, reminds me of:

”Our earth is degenerate in these latter days; there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end; bribery and corruption are common; children no longer obey their parents; every man wants to write a book and the end of the world is evidently approaching,” attributed to an Assyrian stone tablet of about 2800 B.C.


True. Personally I’m struggling to find women that want to be mothers, qualified or not.

Yeah its all too hard, easier to just stay childless and be done with it.

If you found one that didn’t life sucks. You are going to be a single mom either with one income or 2 but functionally single mom

They'll also reject this sort of man at the start of a relationship for being "too nice".

I don’t think “too nice” is correct, but I’ve definitely seen women pass on great guys that weren’t 6ft or good looking.

I fucking love the 6’ restriction. I can think of no better way to eliminate unsuitable mates than to identify that they have a height restriction.

Let’s not perpetuate these sorts of unbacked, destructive aphorisms here.

"Too nice" or "too indecisive", "not confident", "not projecting the ability to take care of and protect her and her children"?

And the men that eventually wrap their minds around what it takes to not be judged that way become not all that interested in marrying most women.



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