"As long as it hurts the people that irritate me slightly (based on things that Fox News told me but which I don't have any firsthand experience with), I don't care if I'm hurting myself with the same action. It's too satisfying to hurt those other people. Taste their tears. Strike back!"
This is the kind of purity test OP is talking about. Theres no chance (in your mind) they might have a point or valid feelings, theyre just evil for being against the group mentality. Exactly the kind of politics that plays out everywhere across academia, its not to everyones taste and has several inefficiencies - otherwise successful startups would be run by committees
People don’t like “government run health care”. But will fight tooth and nail for Medicare, Medicaid etc. These are the same people who didn’t like “ObamaCare” but want subsidies for their ACA coverage
People like “science” and “research”, but then fight tooth and nail for removing evidenced backed pedagogy like tracking and gifted programs or phonics; or forcing bad economic ideas like rent control.
Good thing all these absolutely terrible ideas only exist in one party.
I was in a gifted program. But it ends up often being segregation by another name where the well connected can get there kids into them even if they aren’t “gifted” to keep their kids away from “those kids” and you end up giving funding and the best teachers to those kids.
Something similar happen to me. I was smart enough to be in gifted programs in high school. But I got into magnet school in middle school (which was supposed to be to be based on a waiting list) because my mom tutored the child of the admission officer years before.
It’s just like people being against affirmative action for college admission but never say a word about legacy admissions.
And it’s not liberals who oppose research based education, common core, etc. Trump just basically dismantled the department of education and conservative states are mostly concerned with getting rid of books that teach American history including the bad parts and forcing the 10 commandments to be posted and teach that the election was stolen in 2020.
Are you really trying to argue that conservatives want fact based education and not Christianity, Creationism, “The Lost Cause of the Confederacy and it wasn’t about slavery”.
> But it ends up often being segregation by another name
This is an outrageous claim, and you haven’t justified it at all, only suggested that you personally benefitted from nepotism; despite the fact that gifted programs have a history of greatly elevating minorities in this country.
And again, you’re ignoring evidence based pedagogy so you can feel better about yourself and chase a false equality
> Are you really trying to argue that conservatives…
Please call me when you’ve met a conservative more recently than 1990
Again let’s take two examples. I had the highest SAT score in my high school and the second highest in my county the year I graduated. Yes I was kind of smart. But I also had a parent who was not only a high school math teacher who never pushed me to study advanced math and do SAT prep in middle school. But as a person who proctored SAT tests, volunteered to do SAT training and had dozens of books about it before the Internet was a thing, don’t you think I had an advantage?
The second example is my stepson who raised his ACT scores enough to get into the college of his choice after we spent $100 per session for 10 sessions to be tutored one on one by an ex school teacher with a masters.
As far as modern conservatism, today there are states that forcing teachers to display the 10 commandments in school, the Florida education commission (where I live) wanted to teach that slavery was good for Black people.
But you can also look statewide - which states have worse education outcomes - Republican leaning states or Democratic leaning states?
I gave you a citation of one state that is pushing to teach that the election was stolen in 2020.
But again today the Republican administration has department of health and human services run by people with no medical background and are anti-vax.
I am looking at the evidence that you are ignoring.
And in your first reply you mentioned “rent control”. How is that any different from the president imposing tariffs and then telling companies like Walmart and car manufacturers to not raise their prices? That is a form of price control.
The human emotion of spite is an attitude, not a permanent trait we call "evil". I've felt spite. You've felt spite.
I've never killed a national institution out of spite like these people are trying to do with academia. But I yearn to someday eliminate the Forbes 500 list. Does that make me evil? That's a judgement call. How much do you need the Forbes 500 list? How essential is it to your future well-being that those people keep on existing at their current level of wealth? Compare with academia.
This attitude means the shared institutions go away since the group you don't like doesn't want them to begin with and are a very large (possibly majority) of the people you have to share them with.
The only way to fix this is to apologize for the things you think are actually important and correct the mistake.
Alternatively if you really do deeply want these things you could acknowledge we can't share them, find some way to separate yourself, and go build them with like minded people and without the rest of the country. But that probably means finding or creating a different state to do it in.
