Tesla used to be: Unmatched software(+), unmatched electronics(+), Save the planet(+), great subsidies(+), electric car that doesn't look weird(+), USA and Startups and the future(+), unmatched acceleration(+), low built quality(-), Shitty driving dynamics(-)
Now alternatives are pretty good, so still Unmatched software(+) but the difference is not that big and the rest doesn't look good. No longer saving the planet because you don't save the planet with fascists, USA is no longer cool(hostile and clown-like), tech guys are no longer cool(greedy and sleazy and meddle with politics instead of doing cool shit), the design is dated and boring now and there are many alternatives doing much better in many other characteristics.
So Tesla still sells very well when the price is right, match the new situation and it sells. Tasla sells like hot cakes in Turkey for example because they introduced a version specifically for the Turkish regulations and that particular configuration is taxed just %10 when the cheapest petrol cars are taxed %80. AFAIK Tesla keeps selling well in Norway too.
This is spot on, I bought a BYD instead of a Tesla because of the reasons above. The build quality was better, the subsidy was great, and the Tesla brand is associated with Musk, so it's not a brand I personally want to touch.
Both Audi (as an example) and BYD have chinese components. Yes. But with Audi they feel obligated to check the whole car for correct functioning. Including chinese chips. Making sure there are no backdoors (For example) in those chips. If not for themselves and the customer then for the security of the whole country. At least that option exists..
BYD has no such feelings or obligations. In fact, the opposite.
Also: I do not understand ANYONE opting for a cheap Chinese car, knowing that they are screwing their own and their children's future once all the other options are priced out of the market. Once they have the market: kneel down before them.
Also 2: This is one of the few cases where tariff's could actually correctly be applied.
Brand image is really important ev where already better in china than any other place in the world before Tesla but Tesla give the allure that the tech need to have mass appeal.
That's why it was so successful as a company
I thought it was really successful as a company due to all the carbon credit handouts it received from government, which it sold to the other car companies.
That, and the lies from the man who owns a social media company (albeit later)
Tesla made a little under 3% of its 2024 revenue from carbon credits.
It made those credits because it sells electric cars in volume.
I get the Musk bashing, and think the guy's an asshat, but isn't this literally what carbon credits are supposed to do -- funnel cash from dirty industries to carbon negative ones, as another channel of funding for them?
I always assumed that pro-fascism folks don't trust him as he's not really in this for the right reasons. He must be the ultimate poser, "useful for now" in these circles.
In Europe EV adoption is really driven by a concerted effort by individual buyers wanting to make green choices. And Musk has completely alienated all support from that buyer base. I don't see Tesla ever recovering its green credentials, and as a consequence ever recovering its sales or second-hand value.
The company fleets are a thing of the past in my part of Europe so I didn't have them in mind when I was making my comment.
I would speculate that European fleet purchasers in other parts of Europe would be wary of buying Teslas now partly because of the current trade war stuff and also with an eye on the resale value at end of lease; its really hard to shift a second hand Tesla these days.
What’s the point in a luxury brand where you’re embarrassed to be seen displaying the logo? I don’t think I’ve ever seen brand impairment like this that didn’t result in the brand being retired. The only way forward I can see for them in Europe is partnership with a European firm and I can’t see that working either.
Do people really care about this that much? The European company that made my car probably uses its social media and ad presence to spread progressivism, which I’m completely against, but what are we supposed to do, find and buy only from companies that we identify with politically? That would be very hard and limiting. And somewhat stupid too (as stupid as a car company taking a political stance, or people that think that buying from some company means you identify with their politics, but here we are!)
Do people care that one of the most powerful men in the world has become an enthusiastic cheerleader for the ignorant beliefs and dangerous rhetoric that led to the deadliest war in human history?
Why? I'm sure the CEOs of most big companies we all give money to daily are evil people. Even if not, I'm sure some of their senior management, or even their janitor is a horrible person.
This is the same confusion I have when someone decides to boycott a movie based on an actor. It's very likely some of the hundreds of people who make most movies are awful too, it's entirely futile.
To what extent? If you find out that a second camera operator in 200 odd films was a child molester, would you then make a point to avoid all of their prior films? If you found out someone who worked the production line of your favourite chocolate was a neo nazi, would you stop eating that chocolate?
We only seem to care when the person who is bad is also famous. I think everyone else is just as apathetic, but deludes themselves. I promise you that most things you own or use have some tier of evil within them. People buy cheap clothes, slave made phones and all sorts of things all the time and elect to ignore the imorality of it.
If you think "progressivism" is somehow on equal footing as one of the worst genocides in history then you are morally bankrupt. Several of my family died under the Nazi regime, and I'm not even Jewish or other Untermensch group. This is not unusual in Europe. There's a reason purchases dropped off a cliff after the Sieg Heil specifically, and not before when he merely had some questionable politics.
That’s the beauty of living in a free country. You can choose to spend money with companies that share your values. Personally, I wouldn’t give my money to a neo-Nazi bootlicker, but you do you.
Aside problems with Musk it has to be said that the model lineup of Tesla is poor by today’s Euopean standards. We have lots of models and brands available in all sizes, luxurious and expensive to small and fun. Tesla was a great choice in 2019, but now it is just one among many and it doesn’t boast a great design or interesting imterior.
Even in the US, Tesla has problems with lack of variety.
In my case, almost nothing they sell fits in my garage. Even their shortest (Model 3) just barely fits, and there’s no hatch variant like I’d prefer, so I’m leasing a Nissan Ariya and will probably switch to one of those next-gen Leafs afterwards.
I have 2 or 3 neighbors that solved that problem by parking in the driveway. I think the car would fit in the garage but ~75% of my neighbors use their garage as an extra room to store shit.
Yeah that’s what my neighbors do too, but I live in a dense suburb and it makes getting in/out difficult if everybody’s driveways (including mine) are full, and the size of my car exacerbates that. Even as it is it’s a pain when the one neighbor has their truck in their driveway instead of their usual smaller Forester — in that case my small-by-SUV-standards Ariya suddenly feels like a whale trying to slip through.
My needs also just aren’t that great. I don’t commute and I don’t drive much, so a small, highly maneuverable city car fits the bill perfectly.
If you don’t commute and don’t drive much a Tesla doesn’t make sense anyway. Other than next-gen Leaf, your next-best option might be a used Chevy Bolt (or Bolt EUV).
Instead of worrying about the richest man in the world, feel sympathy for the people actively dying from his “wood chipper” tactics: https://archive.is/25XCC
Not much, I guess. His bad behavior goes back a long way, and has hurt many people around him. He used to lie publicly about his first child having died in his arms, when it was the mother's, just to provide a stark example.
He has enough bills to wipe his tears away with, unlike others.
I suspect some of the more recent behavior is attributable to or influenced by drug use, and I feel some sympathy for anyone who comes under their thrall.
You can feel sympathy for a person without agreeing with them or having the same viewpoints. I hope there are people out there that feel bad for another living being.
Does anybody feel sympathy for a terrorist? If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others who have or may fall prey to them. Your sympathy becomes selective and meaningless.
This might sound like a hyperbole, but the comparison to terrorism is relevant here. The DOGE cuts have a cost in terms of human lives. I have no conclusive sources to show for it, but some estimates put it at 300K till date. Even Bill Gates criticized it. And Elon laughed and scoffed at it when he was asked about it. Drugs are not an excuse for any of it, since it was his choice and nobody's addiction should cause the deaths of thousands. Frankly, the greed of billionaires seem to have a bigger cost in terms of suffering and lives than even terrorists do. So please stop giving these humans devoid of any empathy, the benefit of your humanity.
>If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others
What this means is an incomplete understanding of sympathy / empathy. These feeling don't need to pick sides. And they don't have to influence outcomes either - even feeling these feelings, you can come to the conclusion that you don't want to associate with, or support that person at all. Or even speak out against them, or do anything else. You are free to do all that, and it's not a contradiction. Quite the opposite, not doing that is to artificially restrict natural human expression.
Also, you don't have to feel sympathy / empathy, and that is okay as well. Others might, and that is just as valid. Either of them telling the other that they are wrong, and should or should not feel it, is now wrong. Feeling something about it, and voicing that, is not wrong though again.
> Does anybody feel sympathy for a terrorist? If your answer is yes, then you're unsympathetic towards numerous innocent others who have or may fall prey to them. Your sympathy becomes selective and meaningless.
You can have sympathy for both. It's not one or the other.
> So please stop giving these humans devoid of any empathy, the benefit of your humanity.
I sympathize for you. I hope that you're willing to open up your mind and be open to the idea that everyone deserves humanity.
Hitler decided some people should be treated with humanity and others not. I imagine if you asked Hitler, he would have said the Jewish people were devoid of any empathy. I think we're above that, right?
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It seems that for a lot of people, politics is more important than having humanity for other people. I wonder why that is.
> You can have sympathy for both. It's not one or the other.
Not so when a privileged minority inflicts staggering amount of suffering on a large population. Sympathy towards them is a luxury that's at odds with the dignity and survival of the ordinary people.
> I sympathize for you.
Please spare me!
> I hope that you're willing to open up your mind and be open to the idea that everyone deserves humanity.
It's your own duty to protect your humanity against corruption by the absolute power you wield. How many of these bad actors were spared prison sentences simply on account of being rich? How much were they emboldened each time they evaded justice?
> I imagine if you asked Hitler, he would have said the Jewish people were devoid of any empathy. I think we're above that, right?
Don't misconstrue justice with bigotry. Hitler deliberately projected the Jews as enemies in order to suppress sympathy and agency among his subjects. According to your logic, he should be shown sympathy regardless. Yet, his death in one of the countless assassination attempts against him would have been a small price to pay for the hundreds of thousands of Jewish lives that could have been saved.
> It seems that for a lot of people, politics is more important than having humanity for other people. I wonder why that is.
That's not surprising at all. It's so because you insert politics into matters where there are none.
You're comment doesn't seem to make much sense. It does appear that you have some deep-rooted anger. Our philosophies are obviously different, and commenting here doesn't seem like it's going to get us on common ground.
Which is precisely why the company cannot split with Elon, and people who think it will are deluded.
Elon has a very loose association with truth, in a manner that usually yields long prison sentences. For many years he has been engaging with what could accurately be called securities fraud, and there is always some amazing new mega revenue stream just around the corner. If Tesla fired Elon (in an imaginary world where he didn't control the board), any competent hire would have to seriously say ooof and point out all of the mega risks the company faces. With Elon it's all magic and fairy tales and soon a trillion super robots and robotaxis to Mars and...
Is anyone surprised by this? Europeans still vividly remember, and are reminded, of the cost of WWII. When the head of a company, no matter how trendy, sieg heils on stage (twice!) and then goes on to publicly appear at far-right german political rallies - europeans take note, and act accordingly.
Americans have a poor understanding of what’s going on with Teslas sales numbers because their market largely lacks the competition that exists elsewhere and so they overindex on lesser factors like Elon.
The real issue is simply that Tesla are attempting to maintain their pricing and margins while the cost of producing EVs is plummeting and the variety of options is increasing.
The result is that they are being severely undercut on price by BYD et al.
Tesla are going to have to either start cutting prices significantly, or accept being a low volume pseudo-premium offering.
Invoking “1984” doesn’t automatically make you profound or right. You sidestep with a quip, offering no counter-evidence or analysis, just a tired dystopian trope. If you’re going to accuse someone of ignoring “evidence of your eyes and ears,” at least bring a shred of proof to the table instead of leaning on literary clichés to mask a weak rebuttal. The video may raise questions, but dismissing the point with a smug one-liner only shows you’re more interested in sounding clever.
It wasn't for you, it was for everyone else who feels the same way I do about what is quite clear. There's at least 3 other prominent republicans who also Sieg Heiled, including Bannon, once Trump's chief strategist, in front of CPAC (the tea party/the GOP): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E9pXCuJnbc
I am sure it must also be at exactly a 30 degree angle with even a degree off invalidating it as an official nazi salute.
There is definitely no history of deportations, loyalty purges, secret police, cowing of the judiciary and universities, provocations of anti-semitism, big lies, or attacks on institutions that might inform the greater context and there definitely aren't people who have studied fascism at our most respected universities who are warning us that fascism is here: https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010157022/yale-c...
I don't think it's just the Nazi salute to be honest. The reputational damage the US has suffered this year is insane and it's getting worse.
Since Trump was elected America has been awful to its allies, specially Canada and EU. Many Europeans, are avoiding spending money on American companies, much less one owned by Musk.
Maybe it’s the fault of my US centric education, but I must be forgetting that part of Europe that had a fun time during WWII. Even the Swiss spent the time preparing for the other shoe to drop.
Virtually everywhere in Europe, broadly defined, was either directly involved in WW2 or was severely impacted by it while not technically being a combatant.
There is effectively none, besides Tesla. With the exception of Ford the US brands' Europe strategy essentially died in the financial crisis, and even Ford (which historically was a big player in Europe and designed cars specifically for the market) isn't what it was.
It was widely covered throughout Europe. And widely despised throughout Europe across the political spectrum from left to right. To suggest it's unrelated is a profoundly unserious suggestion.
Cars in particular tend to get bound up in peoples' self-image (to a rather unhealthy degree IMO, but anyway...) Few people would want the association.
It came up at the same time as the UK prince as a "wealthy folks just do these things it's funny and not an endorsement you pleebs don't understand" sort of way.
For what it's worth, a UK prince is one of the few people or groups of people that I would assume were likely not hiding Nazi sympathies. Their entire country, and specifically their recent royal ancestors, where subject to Nazi aggression and responsible for countering it. There's a long history of dressing up as those you want to lampoon, especially in British media.
Well, there is Edward VIII which as an American who doesn't follow UK monarchy drama was flabbergasted and in disbelief to learn about and which triggered a wikipedia rabbithole after seeing in particular the closing credits of The Crown S2E6
I haven't watched it, and skimming the wikipedia page isn't making it obvious what you might be alluding to, other than maybe him touring Germany prior to the war.
I'm not entirely sure where the downvotes came from since other than you nobody bothered to respond, but maybe it's based on people's belief that Nazis are some special and unique threat or that the only thing that should be thought about when they are mentioned is concentration camps and their treatment of the Jewish people, but they did so much more than just that, even if that was uniquely horrifying for the period. The Jews weren't the only people sent to concentration camps, and overall, WWII cost 70-85 million people their lives. Nazi Germany affected so many people, nobody gets to claim them as uniquely their own boogie men to the exclusion of all others.
Hmm, from some light reading I'm unsure how active he was as "part of the plot". In any case, that sort of supports my original claim, in that the British royals not only have a history of Nazis attacking their country, but trying to meddle with their royal line and succession, which also wouldn't enamor the royals to them.
Honestly when watching I had figured The Crown was playing it up for drama or invented it whole-cloth because the whole thing was so foreign vs what I was taught about WW2 British monarchy. And that's why the way they calmly deliver receipts (artifacts from the Windsor File/Marburg Files) in the credits triggered a rabbit hole of surreal bewilderment. In fact you will find historians of the British royalty who say The Crown was very lenient in its handling. But specifically about S2E6 there's a section here that summarizes what was in the episode
I actually ran across that and read the relevant section when googling earlier in this thread. To me it seemed unclear what his motivations allegiances were, just that enough people were worried that he was a piece on the board that could cause problems that he was removed from it. That doesn't mean it was likely, it just means that they didn't want to deal with the complications of having to think about it at all would entail, or to worry about players that would be enticed by it, etc. I imagine in a time of way you try to reduce complexities and unknown as much as possible. Even if a few people have concern over him, it may be easier to just ship him away and appease anyone's concerns if he's not meaningfully important to the war effort. He was made a major-general, but how much experience he had in that role and how good he was performing in it is unknown to me, but I suspect it was at least partially honorific or nepotism whether from the top down or emergent (do I promote the royal or the unknown? Which is safer for my career...).
But that's all during the war, and with one individual of the royals, and I would think the rest of the royals would not be happy going forward with the Nazis thinking they could mess with the line of succession/assassinate they King.
So...it makes it worse(for me). Instead of being a stupid and foolish thing he did in the moment of high emotions it just confirms he's an actual Nazi. I'm literally from Oswiecim, used to go past Auschwitz on my way to school every day - the richest man on earth doing sieg heils on stage despite visiting this place is filling me with dread.
I will give you some context here - in my high school (India) we were never taught any of the million horrible things Hitler did to people. We were only taught that Hitler was a very prominent leader and an icon of history that always won wars and held Germany and many other countries in his grip. It was only when I read about him on the internet that I found what kind of an SOB he actually was, many years later.
I was so stoned by all of that and the fact that our education and schooling hid that very fact from all of us. So it is up to us to teach kids when they grow up to allow them to know history as it exactly happened, without painting it, when the time is right.
What was the motivation for the curriculum to hide - or even glorify - Nazi Germany? And do those motivations keen the current students similarly uninformed?
You have to understand that nations who weren't directly involved will only be interested in broad strokes of history. Up until recently you had people in Europe and elsewhere calling themselves Maoist.
Genghis Khan is not demonized in European or American schools either.
I'm definitely not an expert on this but I think India has (well-grounded) resentment towards Churchill, and so the enemy-of-my-enemy effect may have resulted in a softening of Hitler's image and a tendency to downplay his crimes and negative attributes.
Nuance is hard, and so to some people, accepting Hitler as a villain means whoever defeated him must be a hero, so if we don't want to accept Churchill as a hero then we must reject Hitler being a villain.
(It goes without saying that this logic is faulty, but at the same time it's part of human nature and we all have to grapple with it to some extent).
"do those motivations keen the current students similarly uninformed?"
I am afraid that is still the case. All of the kids I know within my cousins' families (8-14 years of age), have no idea about any of the Holocaust stuff.
The reason I think is the curriculum takes the holocaust not so seriously and also, the authorities believing that kids are not meant to be exposed to much details about all of the stuff. I remember it was just mentioned as "war" to us. It is still sadly the case.
Also, note that we weren't taught a bit of shit about Pol Pot, Imperial Japan etc. Nobody had any idea about the Nanjing Massacre, Unit 731 etc.
All we were just taught was just "wars" - who fought and who won.
It's actually really incredible the lengths that people will go to deny this stuff. Here's Joe Rogan, one of the most popular podcasts in the world, trying to do that, yet of course does not actually show the video!
Clumsy hand movement is a signature sign of autism/aspergers and anyone who watches Musk for more than 10 minutes will notice he suffers from this a lot, but it's okay to mock people for disabilities when their politics don't align with yours. I don't agree with Musk on any things, but think it's wrong to call him a nazi over clumsy hand movement.
I have aspergers, my hand movements are terrible when I try do them to 'blend in', so I usually don't bother.
It is likely that most of the teslas you saw around Amsterdam were part of the Schiphol airport taxi fleet. They went all in on tesla about a decade ago.
Writing from Germany the first association with Tesla is Musk and following that his Nazi stuff and involvement with the current US chaos. The brand name Tesla is burned and it will need years of good behavior to bring it back to neutral. If Tesla wants to sell cars here, they need a new company name.
> Kind of insane that one company was permitted to launch so many.
It’s a good demonstration of how quickly things can go when you don’t have to clear lightyears of red tape and fend off constant obstructionism from NIMBYs and industry incumbents.
We could probably lay fiber at almost the same speed if we could get those factors out of the way, but reality is not that kind and so any large scale terrestrial project like that is a long, drawn-out, expensive nightmare.
I’m honestly not sure which group I hate more, the Elon fans who think he can’t do anything wrong or the Musk haters who think everything he does is evil/dumb.
How is buying from Chinese companies embracing the CCP? BYD didn't do anything to Uighurs. The US is also supporting something much worse than what China has done at this moment, so if we use the same logic, we shouldn't be buying anything produced by US companies.
One thing is obviously Musk with his Nazi salutes and open support to the far right in multiple European countries, including Germany. This, to me, is enough to mock anyone who would buy a Tesla after those events.
The other thing is that Tesla is a US company. I suspect that many people outside the US look for alternatives to US products. The more expensive the product, the more important the decision. And Teslas are by far not the best EVs (clearly not an ecological car, not the cheapest, ...), so it's easy to go for an alternative.
And then, for people who wouldn't mind so much what Musk and Trump and their band are doing, it is anyway a risk: people in the street will judge you if you drive in a Tesla. Many drivers have put stickers on their Tesla to show they don't support Musk ("I bought it before Musk became crazy"), but they can't do that with a new model. Buying a new Tesla that was clearly built after those events is a great risk (Teslas have been burned even though they had been bought before the madness).
All that to say, I'm surprised to see that there are still Tesla sales in Europe at all.
Some Americans certainly understand. Sadly (or maybe thankfully?) a lot of them have passed on. My grandfather was in France and Germany and was so scarred by what he experienced there that he never spoke of it once to any of his 6 children or 16 grandchildren and he was a fantastic story teller. I shudder to think how he would feel about what's happened in America recently. The Europe that he risked his life for and his friends that he watched die ... all that sacrifice and good will has been discarded in a few months.
> I don't think that Americans (or South Africans) really understand the scars that the Nazis left in Europe.
Left-leaning and centrist Americans at least were similarly horrified, so I don't think it's an issue of understanding in the US. Musk in particular is just dead set on being a right-wing extremist now for whatever reason.
Also note that it's not just Europe where sales have dropped, Tesla EV market share has fallen quite hard in the US as well IIRC.
> Musk in particular is just dead set on being a right-wing extremist now for whatever reason.
That reason is his breeder fetish/ideology. By the tabloid press he's paid for IVF gender selection for boys, and Vivian rejecting that, defying her father's wish and coming out as trans is what sent him off on the anti-woke crusade. And that's also why he bought and ruined Twitter - in his view, it was the woke people on there who ruined his "son".
It's all so damn petty, the actions of a man so rich he didn't think someone would ever tell him the word "no" and follow through with it. So much completely unnecessary suffering, all for the pure vanity of a single man.
I don’t have an answer to that, but I grew up with plenty of Americans, some of whom might even have fought in WWII, who wouldn’t buy a VW for the obvious reasons.
It would be interesting to see if the brand could be recovered if Elon left. I have to imagine a significant fraction of anyone still working there is still there because they're politically aligned with Elon, so, it might be difficult.
I think now that VW and Renault have their own very attractive options and the US is acting more and more hostile, even if Tesla was purged from Elon loyalists, why would anyone buy American if they can buy European?
Yes, Henry Ford had Nazi sympathies. But VW was literally founded by the Nazis:
> "Volkswagen was established in 1937 by the German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront) as part of the Strength Through Joy (German: Kraft durch Freude) program in Berlin" [0]
> "The German Labour Front (German: Deutsche Arbeitsfront, pronounced [ˌdɔʏtʃə ˈʔaʁbaɪtsfʁɔnt]; DAF) was the national labour organization of the Nazi Party, which replaced the various independent trade unions in Germany during the process of Gleichschaltung or Nazification." [1]
Many do not but still many do. Hopefully those of us that do will still be around to pick up the pieces. The American Spirit is a thing but we'll just have to hope it endures whatever the consequences are going to be for recent actions.
Polls say somewhere between 55-80% of Americans get it. The republicans are explicitly ignoring everyone except a < 20% fringe movement, and are systematically dismantling the rule of law and our democracy faster than hitler did.
We already have troops being deployed against Americans, ICE arresting citizens, and the Supreme Court making it impossible for lower courts to do anything after they’ve ruled the Trump administration is in violation of the law. There are numerous ongoing illegal attacks against our (private!) universities and free speech too. Also, they’re purging the executive branch of all scientists and military leadership that might uphold the constitution. We also have a new international network of detention camps, and are actively supporting genocide and starting wars.
So, yeah, Americans deeply understanding how f-cked the entire planet is.
I don't think you understand the sentiment in Europe. Supporting far right extremist parties while doing Nazi salutes makes you a pariah, irrecoverably.
>Tesla can probably dig out of their hole in 50-80 years
Tesla's market cap is still about $1 trillion, so it can't be much of a hole or more precisely investors with real money on the line don't think it can be:
Europe is economically strained right now. Inflation has hit hard, with housing costs skyrocketing even in less expensive countries, and people are being gentrified out of their own cities. Its no time to be buying expensive vanity cars. People cant even buy normal cars right now.
It’s odd to read the comments here, somehow getting into a long thread about nazi camps when the buried lede is that Europe is under tremendous financial stress and it’s not getting better. Losing ground for 20 years to USA and ascendant Asia where Tesla sells a ton of cars is a concern. Talk about boiled frogs.
no matter how many events prove them to be laughably wrong, they keep deluding themselves into thinking that the values held in their extremely isolated bubbles are commonplace.
like yeah, sure bro, people see a $50K car and purse their lips because musk is le bad. just like they do about BMWs and Porsches, right?
I wouldn't romanticize it that much.
Tesla used to be: Unmatched software(+), unmatched electronics(+), Save the planet(+), great subsidies(+), electric car that doesn't look weird(+), USA and Startups and the future(+), unmatched acceleration(+), low built quality(-), Shitty driving dynamics(-)
Now alternatives are pretty good, so still Unmatched software(+) but the difference is not that big and the rest doesn't look good. No longer saving the planet because you don't save the planet with fascists, USA is no longer cool(hostile and clown-like), tech guys are no longer cool(greedy and sleazy and meddle with politics instead of doing cool shit), the design is dated and boring now and there are many alternatives doing much better in many other characteristics.
So Tesla still sells very well when the price is right, match the new situation and it sells. Tasla sells like hot cakes in Turkey for example because they introduced a version specifically for the Turkish regulations and that particular configuration is taxed just %10 when the cheapest petrol cars are taxed %80. AFAIK Tesla keeps selling well in Norway too.