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Just now listened to some of her music, two of her pieces

Good Luck Babe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RKqOmSkGgM&pp=ygUcY2hhcHBlb...

and

Pink Pony Club

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR3Liudev18&pp=ygUOcGluayBwb...

So, with the definition of art as the "communication, interpretation of human experience, emotion" what I saw in those two pieces was that they were intended for some teen girls and young women -- single, lonely, generally afraid of their circumstances, don't understand what they see of reality, eager for sex but afraid of it, lost, i.e., missing any good cultural, social, or intellectual foundation for understanding reality or facing life, ....

So in the music, the costumes and stage shows are rapidly changing, outrageous, meaningless, fantasy, scary, i.e., are communication, interpretation of those women's experience, emotions, rapidly changing, outrageous ....

In simple terms, those women have circumstances that yield strong emotions that the music communicates.

"Communicates"? Why? As common, to the audience comfortingly confirms that they are not alone and instead like many others.

How could this be? In the past the women lived in a culture based on strong social, practical, economic, religious, parenting forces. Now (1) for millions of those women the culture is weak or gone and (2) the Internet permits getting confirming, reinforcing communication, interpretation of their scary circumstances from the loss of the culture.

In short, the music really is communication, interpretation of the experience and emotions of those women.

To me it seems that Taylor Swift did much the same, i.e., similar audience, but Chappell Roan is stronger, louder, more outrageous for an audience with stronger emotions.

As a young man, the teen girls I knew, right, had the anxieties from their circumstances but much more constrained and less scary than now.

The music, for me, a man: Get rid of the sets, costumes, dancing, and words and take just the background music (a lot of drum beating) and the singing. In places, the singing is pretty good, i.e., expressive, but really the singing, as art, is all nearly the same, that is, the same vocal content for the same communication, interpretation of experience and emotion.

I expect that even the current devoted audience will soon, a year or so, give up on the current Chappell Roan -- for a cruel joke, "A one trick pony.".

From Vivaldi and Bach through Beethoven and Brahms ... Wagner, Tchaikowsky, ..., Barber there is a lot of effective communication, interpretation of a wide range of experiences, emotions, that is, really good art.

For level 101, a major key is glad and a minor key, sad. Then changing keys, selected chords within keys, pitch, volume, variety of sounds from the variety of instruments, combinations, ..., give a lot more tools for expression than used by Chappell Roan and, thus, permit a lot more music, art.

Next, the tools were just means, and Bach, Wagner, Tchaikowsky, ..., were really good in the artistic content, that is, again, communication, interpretation of human experience emotion.



Yeah this is ridiculous. One of the songs you posted has a key change so if you're saying a key change is fundamental for expression you're clearly not listening hard enough. You also didn't do a great job trying to explain the appeal of it, likely because you don't like it, as you will never be able to capture the fire like someone who does, so it just comes across as condescending. As well, likening her to "Taylor Swift but Louder" further shows your lack of knowledge about pop theory and history.

The rapidly moving pace of the music and performances in those two performances (2 of her hits, of course they're intense) is because she believes those were the more interesting/economical choices at the time. any inferences you make about the women who listen to it are purely based on your personal idea of what you decide women are thinking about on a given day.


Taylor Swift did well understanding the emotions of teen girls, so well that lots of teen girls, not just in the US, begged their fathers and got ~$1000 for a ticket to a Swift concert, and Swift ended up worth ~$1 billion.

It also helped that with good makeup and a good photographer, she had one of the prettiest faces of any human female. She also had a near perfect figure. So, her audience could identify with those. Likely even more important, were her stories of love gained/lost.

I'm a man and so don't much like Swift's art, but the ~$1 billion got me to try to explain her success.

For any men here slow to figure this out and take it seriously, a lot of teen girls and young women have some strong emotions, and art that communicates and interprets those emotions to those teens/women can be very welcome, so welcome to generate ~$1 billion.

I did spend enough time with teen girls and young women to understand a little about their strong emotions.

On key changes in music, the Bach piece in the URL I gave starts in D minor, has central section on D major, and has the final third a lot like the first section and also in D minor.

When I was playing it on violin, I liked the D major section the best. There are some triplets, and I played them insistently, maybe not the best interpretation -- the URL doesn't do that. Maybe I tried the interpretation from a Heifetz performance.

The piece is also sometimes played on guitar. Waiting for a concert to start, a guitarist sat next to composer Mario Castelnuovo-Tedesco and said "The Bach Chaconne sure is difficult to play." The composer, a man of few words, said nothing until the end of the concert and then replied "The Bach Chaconne is the greatest piece of music ever written."

Oh, the URL I gave is a full orchestra arrangement of the Chaconne.

If pop music is that good, I'll be glad to listen to it!




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