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> other countries can mind their own business

Right. Because nothing says "I can mind my own business." like nuclear weapons being at most one coup from being launched at someone, possibly you.

People thought nuclear weapons are a defensive deterrent but what war in Ukraine showed us they are actually offensive weapons that deter anyone from defending to strongly when you attack them with your conventional forces.

Both russia and USA used their nuclear weapons in that manner for the last few decades. It's time to call the thing that quacks what it is, a duck.






> Right. Because nothing says "I can mind my own business." like nuclear weapons being at most one coup from being launched at someone, possibly you.

You're saying not all countries should be able to have powerful weapons just because there might be a coup. Who decides that? You? Me? A random guy on the street? A random bureaucrat from a random country?

There are very few people who think they can win a nuclear exchange. And somehow I don't think a random guy in Africa or the Middle East is so sure about it that it risks launching nukes at its neighbor(s).


> You're saying not all countries should be able to have powerful weapons just because there might be a coup.

Of course. How is that controversial?

> Who decides that? You?

Of course. I decide what I believe to be right. And in practice the countries that get to have nuclear weapons are the countries that got nuclear weapons. Not because they deserve it or should have it. Just because they got it. Which makes France, USA and Israel some of the countries that get to have nukes and Iran one of the countries that don't get to have nukes.

> There are very few people who think they can win a nuclear exchange.

You mistake humans for rational actors. Have you heard what the stance of russia is for example? "What's the use for the world if there's no russia in it." Basically if they can't do what they want, they think world deserves to get nuked into oblivion.


> Of course. How is that controversial?

Take the US for example: if the president, secretary of defense and probably the head of the joint chiefs decide it is OK to nuke half the planet because "reasons" - how is that different from a traditional coup?

> Which makes France, USA and Israel some of the countries that get to have nukes and Iran one of the countries that don't get to have nukes.

Power is always taken, never given. Following your rationale, Iran should do whatever to get its hands on some nukes real fast.

> Have you heard what the stance of Russia is for example?

Have you heard of peacocking? If it were actually true, they would have nuked the world way before probably me and you were born.


> Take the US for example: if the president, secretary of defense and probably the head of the joint chiefs decide it is OK to nuke half the planet because "reasons" - how is that different from a traditional coup?

Democracies tend to be more resilient against rule by aggressive idiots. So being a democracy should be lowest common denominator.

> Power is always taken, never given. Following your rationale, Iran should do whatever to get its hands on some nukes real fast.

I have no idea why are you talking about it like it's hypothetical. Iran did whatever it could to get its hands on nukes as fast as it could since Trump destroyed the agreement that Obama signed with Iran.

And it resulted with their top leaders getting assassinated and their nuclear attempts destroyed. So was that really something they should have been doing?




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