Attempting to be diet-Republican won't convince people to go for them instead of the full sugar version. This is literally what they keep trying, and it doesn't work.

You think the center is diet-Republican ?

And the way to get more votes is to be more extreme ?

There's the problem, right there.

> And the way to get more votes is to be more extreme ?

You're doing an awful lot of stuff along the lines of "so you're saying BAD is actually good?" in this thread (not just with me), and it's not really a good way to have a discussion. It's good for arguing over, essentially, nothing.

I am questioning your assertion that moving from the center is the way to win votes, and asking a question that highlights how ridiculous it is.

That is a perfectly normal way to discuss something.

Going meta is not.

You think the way to win elections is to embrace puppy-kicking? Surely you can't be serious. Defend this position that you have taken.

You're sealioning while treating your own assertions as facts. It's an unedifying spectacle.

You jumped into a discussion to throw in a lame insult. You must be so proud of your leet debate skills.

The "sane center" is a dying fantasy only kept on life support by the DNC to justify the same old mummies holding on to their last vestiges of power as everything burns down around them.

There is no compromise that can be made here. The Democrats spent this past election cycle trying to appeal to 'undecided' 'independent' voters by shitting all over their actual base and presenting policies that appealed to about exactly zero people.

Take immigration, for example. There is no way in hell the Democrats could have ever beaten the Regime on this issue. So what did they do? They still tried to compete by hardening their views to appeal to 'undecided' 'independent' voters who then all promptly headed to cast off their votes for the Messiah. All they managed to achieve was to piss off their base and anybody who'd considered voting for them.

What 'moderate' (which is really just an euphemism for cowardly) Democrats don't understand is that you are in the opening stages of a war, and the last thing you ever want to do is purposefully disarm yourself because of 'decorum' and 'acceptability' and other such nonsense.

You can never make compromises with those who want you dead no matter what. Hopefully the Democrats learn that before everyone in the world has to pay the price.