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On the one hand, an amusing anecdote about an interaction with someone that ended up becoming massively famous does come across as somewhat noteworthy, but on the other hand, the fact that Job's response basically translates to: "Um, ok." does make this kind of... sad?

Side effects of living in a world where wealth and power have become virtues. I think we subconsciously judge our own value based on how many degrees we came to stepping onto the world's "stage".


This is how I felt. A blog article 34 years later about a interaction so trivial that Jobs probably forgot it even happened 10 seconds later. I cringe a little. But hey whatever makes people happy.

Hey, running into someone who is exceptional and having a fun story to tell about it is reasonable and doesn't deserve this negative energy.

That time I ran into Larry Bird, or just missed having dinner with Douglas Adams, or the time I talked to Jonny Kim-- they're little markers of time in my existence. I know they're not gods, and I've done pretty cool things myself, but I'm still in awe of the cool stuff they've done.


I have a famous person anecdote I enjoy telling.

More than 20 years ago now, my brother (who was maybe 9) had his friend over for lunch and the night before my brother had spent the night at his house.

So my mother asks what they got up to, and the friend says they were playing water pistol fights with his sister’s boyfriend, “Wa-kin”, who was visiting.

We then ask what the boyfriend does, and he responds that he’s an actor. (Just be aware now that we live in Johannesburg, South Africa.)

So we say, cool, has he acted in anything we might know?

And friend says something like “Oh, lots of movies, Gladiator, Signs, others…”.

At which point I remember thinking, “no way!” and “so that’s how Joaquin is pronounced” (as I’d only ever seen it written).

Turns out the friend’s sister was a model living in New York which explained the situation I would never have guessed.


Kevin Nash and I peed next to one another in an airport bathroom one time.

Well don't leave us hanging.

I completely agree. Both emails from Steve Jobs and Tim Cook are totally impersonal and routine. It's entirely possible they weren't even "personally sent" by either.

There's nothing wrong with the stories, just the overall sentiment behind them.


Steve was a temperamental guy. It's not geek hero worship, just being afraid of your boss, plus the timidness and vulnerability of being a new hire.

Have Jobs ever been a compter geek hero? Wozniak is the one people raise to the skys.

Steve is the hero of salesmen, consultants and CEO-s, should not be a hero for geeks and actual developers.

Steve Jobs knew how to ship products people want. I have no respect for developers in a corporate settings who don’t ship.

Steve: what would this product be like if it were magical?

Engineer: I don’t think we can build that with our current technology.

Steve: I don’t give a fuck. You’re a nerd who is meant to like inventing. Do it.

It’s really easy when we live in the world of the Mac, and the iPhone to say “Ah it was inevitable” but Steve’s approach to product is what got us here. He made sure that the GUI was computers, that capacitive touchscreens were smart phones.

Being arguably the greatest product guy and salesman of all time is some feat.


> After launch, MobileMe was widely panned, full of embarrassing bugs. Jobs gathered employees in an Apple auditorium and asked them, “Can anyone tell me what MobileMe is supposed to do?” And when his team started to answer, Job snapped, saying, “Why the F doesn’t it do that?” He spent the next hour berating the group, saying they had tarnished Apple’s reputation and that they should all hate each other for having let each other down. He then fired the head of the team and replaced him on the spot. Steve wasn’t happy at all. He clearly felt very deep shame and took it out on his team”

https://medium.com/initialized-capital/how-founders-must-cha...

Can you imagine “Apple Intelligence” being this bad under Jobs?

Contrast that with Cook…

“where can we put more ad units that make the product worse”

“Let’s ignore Phil Schiller’s advice, the judge’s court order and make the experience of paying outside of the App Store as shitty as possible”.

“Let’s keep our base model Macs at 8GB for over a decade to save a little money and get people to pay for upgrades”

I really hate Tim Cook.


I mean, the salesman-CEO/founder is way better at selling themselves as a hero of tech & innovation than the engineer-CTO/founder.

Sending every new user an email with a "very personal welcome" and audio message for example.

Geeks and developers can have multiple dimensions to their personality.

I respect Steve Jobs for his ruthless and uncompromising focus on quality and his attention to detail. He wasn't just a sales guy.


We tell stories of things that are noteworthy. We find this to be entertaining.

Where are you seeing geek hero worship here?

Dude wrote a small anecdote on their blog and this is your response?

Yeah, a small anecdote on their blog after 34 years on the job. Does not seem like worship at all.

It is respect, not worship.



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