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But that's kinda the beauty of it. If you get laid off from one of these places the next place doesn't know that you took 300k home to do jack, all they know is you worked for a super prestigious company for 10 years and you can plausibly make up the rest about what you actually did there.





> you can plausibly make up the rest about what you actually did there.

I would never do this, and if you would do this I wouldn't want to work with you. Maybe I'm a sucker, but I sleep alright.


It's not like the parent would have accomplished nothing in the 10 years. I think they are just talking about framing it in language palatable to the interviewer across the table.

Even in the most dysfunctional organizations you can't spend 10 years doing nothing.

GP was achieving what their bosses asked of them. It's just that it didn't align with their own professional goals of improving the product they work on.


Sorry, 20 years experience of actually doing things here. I've spent 10 of those years now doing consulting with everyone from 3-person pre-series-A startups all the way up to the Fortune 50.

Let me unequivocal: you can spend 30-40 years at a company doing absolutely nothing while getting paid for it.

Do not let anyone try to convince you otherwise. I've seen such much unethical bloodsucking in my career that at this point I wouldn't mind seeing a few companies collapse under the weight of their own karma.


“Absolutely nothing” is still doing what is asked of you by a boss. Unless you’re talking CEOs fooling the board, of course.

Not contributing meaningful things is an arbitrary metric that is often only used to put people down. One can build the whole product and there will still be some asshole claiming they did the easy part or “you didn’t work enough in it to know what’s like”.

The incompetence here lies 100% with person keeping the employee.


> Let me unequivocal: you can spend 30-40 years at a company doing absolutely nothing while getting paid for it.

Maybe this was true for 40 years from the 70s to the 2000s, or maybe even the 80s-10s, but I don't think this is true anymore

Certainly not in software engineering, in a world run by JIRA


oh man, respectfully but this cannot be further from the truth. SWEs have successfully convinced everyone that profession “is not about just coding” (you see a sea of these statements here on HN in 100x daily posts “will LLMs replace us”) and hence tools like Jira only amplify ability to do (mostly) nothing

To clarify: the tickets can close but they don't push the product forward at all.

There is a very high probability that someone you work for did just this.

You haven't been on LinkedIn in the last few years, then.

unfortunately I have. It is indeed a hellscape of, as the kids say, "aura farming". Microsoft really seem to want to turn it into Instagram for some reason.

I still use it as a job board, personally.


Is there any other meaningful job board (outside of "whose hiring" on hn)?

I haven't had to apply for a job for a while, so genuinely curious what people would use these days if there wasn't anything coming via word of mouth.


https://hiring.cafe

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It's quite the opposite. Instagram is turning into LinkedIn.

Chances are high anyone to corroborate was laid off or has moved on, and does the same thing anyway lol

Chances are high anyone to corroborate was laid off and does the same thing anyway lol

Everybody does this to some degree. Even you.

What about actually accomplishing some things over 10 years while maintaining good work life balance?

That's the dream, but it requires either luck (to fall into a great company) or burning of political capital (plus luck).

If you're going to lie about experience anyways, you don't have to work for the FAANG company in the first place.

It's not lying about your experience. Just not hustling to "get things done" or caring so much about personal satisfaction in the work.

Better to do some carpentry or pottery outside of work and put your pride in that.


> you can plausibly make up the rest about what you actually did there

saying you did things, which you did not do, is lying about your experience


If you took home 300k for 10 years then you don’t have to worry about getting a job.

For many people expenses expand to fill income. Some people think that the real brilliant investors of the bay area are the real estate investors who captured all the value.

That’s only $3M total gross. You paid over $1M in taxes across fed, state, and FICA. You probably spent over $500K if you lived quite frugally. That leaves maybe $1.25M plus some growth on that. Call it $1.5M. That will give you $60K/yr in income with high likelihood to last 30+ years. Pay taxes on that and you’re living in less than the $50K/yr you were living on before plus you have to buy health insurance.

That’s not very appealing to most.


The last sentence is completely wrong - that's almost the US median income.

MORE THAN HALF make less, and they are actually working during that timeframe.


You spent 50k a year if you lived quite frugally?

This becomes quickly apparent in a smaller company or if you have a manager that knows what they are doing.

You'll get hired, if you pass the technical interviews, but if you cannot contribute at the level they hired you, you'll be exited and that will be suspicious for your next application.


>but if you cannot contribute at the level they hired you, you'll be exited

But this is the case for anyone anywhere, it doesn't effect the OPs position one way or another.


it'd be quicker if they feel you either lied or do not live up to your name. Easier to fire you and find someone on your level but much cheaper.

> This becomes quickly apparent in a smaller company or if you have a manager that knows what they are doing

Sounds like an unlikely problem and by then you can pull a reverse end run around your manager to their manager who doesn't know what they are doing and will believe anything the guy who worked at google says.

Most people here actually work for that guy.




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