Having used better solutions for those things in the past, being forced to use Teams feels like a significant step back.

I miss slack so much. Their attention to detail makes for a much more enjoyable product, paying for something we get for free with 365… still. I don’t know if Microsoft should be content with a product that’s so awful people literally only use it because of network effects.

I always found slack to be sort of awful and hated it. Then I used teams and understood that slack was actually a decent version of such apps.

Curious to know what's awful about slack specifically. For me, I don't like to get lost in a bazillion channels, pins are not global (`saved for later` is), there is no personal message queues etc.

Do you have a laundry list?

Not so much a laundry listening more that it feels wrong as it is clearly an electron app and doesn’t feel like a native app and chooses to have its own conventions over embracing feeling like a native app.

I think that causes some of the issues you are mentioning.

Now I don’t personally see any communication app like slack that is any better than it. They all sort of suck but I feel like I had a better time with IRC apps back in the day than I do with modern communication apps.

I just pin it in my browser now. I don't really get anything out of using the app version.

That is an even worse experience IMHO.

What? How? It's the exact same experience, but without needing to run a heavy electron app.

These are...identical apps. That's the point of packaging with electron.

Because it is now a browser tab instead of a stand alone app. Running things in the browser is even worse that electron imho.

RIP HipChat; we don't know how good we had it.

I think it’s less that you’re missing something Zoom does better, it’s mostly that Teams is a poor replacement for any calendar, messaging app, or video call service. It does those things “fine”, but I wouldn’t say it does any of them _well_.

I actually don't like zoom either ;)

Video conferencing for me Teams isn't the issue as much as it is a compromise when it comes to everything else.