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This question was not raised when the Obama administration dictated procedures and evidentiary standards to universities in cases of sexual assault, with threats of being found liable under Title IX for noncompliance. Well it was raised by some on the right, and then dismissed because, you know, the right, and who wants to defend campus rapists anyway? Those Duke University lacrosse kids should have hung -- even if they didn't actually rape that girl, they might have... or they might have raped some other girl.

When Orange Man exercises a power he presumes to have, it's "dictatorial", but when "Pen and a Phone" Obama exercised that same power -- together with the people, follow where Obama leads.



Obama threatened, but did not make good on those threats. Trump is threatening and actively withholding funds even to Columbia which bent the knee, because these are institutions which are seen as political enemies by the administration.


If the carrot is no different than the stick, then why chase carrots?


But why are those on the right that objected to Obama not objecting to Trump?


Because the left never cared about the rules, except to circumvent them when in power and to use them as a way to prevent the other side from making meaningful progress when not.


Because double standards.


Because to them, the "right person" is doing it for the "right reasons". Same as the Obama supporters, really. It's like, do we live in a constitutional republic with consistent rules the government is expected to follow, or is it "for my friends, anything; for my enemies, the law"?


One is complying with actual statutory law, the other is just ad hoc vengeance. You might not like it but one is an approach actually consistent with the constitutional order of power in this country and the other isn't. I'm so exhausted with this "tit for tat" bs. At best, it's a tacit admission that it is wrong and you don't care.


This unlimited relativism is bizarre. If Trump invaded Canada, is his argument that Roosevelt invaded Germany? There is a difference between one and the other.

What does the Duke lacrosse case have to do with it?


To show that these questions have been asked before, and when the social issue at stake is one that leftists champion, very very few on the left are willing to stand up to presidential authority in any way.

When the same exact power is used in a way that leftists by fiat deem "bad", there is no limit of the amount of pettiness, name calling, obstruction, and general ill will they will put to use to stop the president from doing something. in this case, it is to uphold Civil Rights law against a clear and ongoing violation.

This poster should have realized though that the way to win in politics hasn't been "debating the left" or crying "what if the roles were reversed?!" for some time now. Thats the way to be a principled loser, and be called all sorts of names in the process.


There is no comparable president on the left, or from any part of the political spectrum.

> Thats the way to be a principled loser, and be called all sorts of names in the process.

Your argument is baseless attacks and your victimhood. Is there anything substantive that supports your claims?


baseless attacks, like calling every republican a Nazi for the last 30 years seems to have worked quite well. Proclaiming your victimhood w.r.t. an abstract "patriarchy" has also lead to significant gains in political influence.


I think you have had too much Kool-aid today.


Duke lacrosse what the epitome of “Guilty because male”… which made the wind turn around and you have a situation to deal with now. All of this because people don’t want the left’s “Guilty because male” or “because [race]” solution, and they made it known through the ballots.

For those who don’t know: Under Title IX, in summary, accusers of rape have all rights for their case to be treated by internal boards in the uni, which means no due trial with merits or proof, which is blatantly unconstitutional but the left didn’t care at the time. Oh yeah and not only seizing the girl’s phone as evidence is forbidden too, but even showing the man’s phone with the conversation with the girl, because it would impede on the girl’s privacy. So some poor Lacrosse players got accused, adulthoods were already ruined, the women admitted to lying, and this is the case with probably all accused without due process during the 2013-2025 period.

And Title IX is still enforced.


The sexual assault allegations against Duke lacrosse players were headed for criminal court. They are unresolved because powerful people prevented them and their alleged victim from having a day in court, evidence and arguments being heard from both sides, and a jury rendering a verdict. Instead their parents did everything possible to keep it out of court (why?).


They aren't unresolved. They were dropped by the state. The initial prosecutor was disbarred and (briefly) went to jail for his misconduct.


What you describe is that they are unresolved - there was no evidence, verdict. That was all suppressed, including by attacking the prosecutor. Why not clear their names in court?

Prosecutors in every other circumstance wield almost unchecked power - except when the children of the powerful might end up in court. Name another prosecutor treated in this way.


Name another one that has acted so egregiously.


I don't know it was egregious; I think that was the media blitz by powerful people trying to shut them down.

Regardless, it happens all the time everywhere - witholding evidence, fabricated evidence, forced confessions, black site torture, endless harassment, etc. etc. What this DA allegedly did was relatively nothing.


So Trump can defy the constitutional order because of how Duke bungled a case of rape accusations? I don't follow that.




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