You both are correct. You need tons of protein to gain and maintain that huge muscle mass when you do bodybuilding. 200 ain't even so extreme compared to many, especially in the past.
The idea that such intake will not fuck you up later is naive. Due to all the healthy stuff that you do with and around weightlifting your health state is most probably stellar compared to same you not doing any sport, so you build a 'health margin' or whatever we can call it. But it still fucks you up, just different parts of the body.
Unless thats how you earn money and thus have to do it, I very politely suggest moving down 2 notches in intensity (if its for women they will still adore you, if compensating for some bad childhood stuff this ain't the best solution anyway). Either add more endurance if you feel not doing enough or another sport, more endurance is anyway supremely usable in all aspects of life. But as said that's just a polite suggestion for optimizing for truly long term health.
Czesc jajko dzieki za komentarz. I used bodybuilding as a catch all but what I am really doing is doing heavy strength training alongside muay thai/grappling. Either way, still need the protein. I would like to long term focus on cardio with only basic weight lifting once I hit my strength goals, so I agree with you.
That's fine, but bodybuilding is recreational with the exception of a very small number of people who are professional bodybuilders. Human beings don't _need_ to have 200g of protein per day. Assuming you're not a professional or don't have a job where large muscle mass is an absolute requirement, the excess protein intake is something you _want_ so that you can enjoy your hobby.
To be clear, you should continue to eat as much meat as you want - it's your life! There are tons of advantages to strength training and bodybuilding, and I am not trying to diminish any of that.
But what I can't agree on is that it's ethical to consume that much daily protein unless you truly need it. That level of meat consumption has very real impacts - it is literally unsustainable for a significant number of people to consume excess protein entirely from meat.
You point out that this behavior is unethical and in the same breath you say they should keep doing it. I'm having trouble reconciling these two statements, or thinking of examples of when unethical behavior should be encouraged[0]. Perhaps it should be "you *can* continue to eat as much meat as you want" instead of "you should [...]"? That way it acknowledges their agency and our inability to prevent their actions, without condoning them.
[0] so far the closest I've come is "perhaps in retaliation against an earlier injustice"
I get about 80 grams from protein powder (whey), another 20 from eggs, another 20-50 from yoghurt, and another 50-60 from a chicken breast/fish (200-300g worth). I get all my eggs and meat locally as I live in the boonies. You are being deliberately obtuse assuming I get 200 grams from only meat. This would wreck my bowels.
Cheers for the lecture though, I think I'll up it to 300 grams just from your comment alone.
>it is literally unsustainable for a significant number of people to consume excess protein entirely from meat
When the billionaires give up their profits I'll trade in my single daily unsustainable chicken breast.
