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> Estimates for effects of the regulation are right there-- they hope for total savings of 8TWh within 2030, but mainly from longer product lifetime through devices staying functional for longer on old batteries and easier battery repairability.

That's an interesting point I didn't realize. I still don't see how they can get to those numbers, do they quote the calculations somewhere? I toned down the claim to be less hyperbolic based on your feedback here.

I wonder how often a recent generation phone is replaced due to battery life issues, especially considering the 'smart charging' features that phones have now which makes battery wear a fraction of what it was previously (such as charging to 80% max, 'smart' slow charging at night instead of fast charging, etc)






I agree with you that battery tech is basically getting better by itself.

Anecdotally, I bought at least one phone where slightly easier/cheaper repairability of screen + battery would have made me keep the old one.

I think making these metrics clear on product packaging is also becoming more important, because the improvements in phones have slowed down already, and longer lifetimes should be a consequence/benefit (but this is against manufacturer interests).


Product packaging? Where do you see the package for a phone? I haven't seen a box for a phone before I bought it before, even in the 90's when I sold phones at RadioShack they were kept under lock and key. In fact every phone I have purchased in the last 15 years or so has been second hand via eBay or direct from Google and shipped. Even at the Apple store you can't see a package.

I phrased that poorly, I ment "mandatory labeling" rather than physical package.

Screen/battery fixability was a major criteria when selecting my last phone and this was really hard to gauge, I'm hopeful that regulation like this is gonna help.




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