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Ok so just to be clear we’ve downgraded from “you’ll have to apologize to your kids” to “Winters will be colder but not as cold as they were 210 years ago”.


To think that the only visible impact will be in 210 years just shows how uninformed you are.

From the scientific models we have, we're pretty much screwed. From the measurements we make and compare to the models, it appears like the models are optimistic.

What's sad is that people like you now say "it's not as bad as they say" and 20 years from now you'll be the first ones to say "we didn't know, why didn't they tell us?".


Doesn't really feel like a good faith engagement with the larger point, much less the specific point. I'm inclined to debate, but what's the point? The reality and impacts of what's happening are documented and easily available to those privileged enough to not feel any personal experience from what's happening in and to the world if you're ever more curious than you are right now.




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