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> Late last year, LAist requested samples of MVP-Fx from Cal Fire, the U.S. Forest Service and Perimeter Solutions, which manufactures the product, for the purpose of running an independent analysis for heavy metals. All declined.

> “It’s not in our interest to share product with public or private agencies,” Jurasek said at the time. “You are not the first person to ask for us to give them fire retardant. It happens. It’s not something we do.”

How is this legal? Like how can the government spray random chemicals all over the land and there's no way for the public to compel them or the people supplying them to declare what's in them?



> “You are not the first person to ask for us to give them fire retardant. It happens. It’s not something we do.”

Scary to think what other discoveries were missed if those other investigations had been given the samples they asked for.

I also enjoy how they all pile on to say the results can't be trusted.

> Cal Fire, the U.S. Forest Service and Perimeter Solutions all dismissed the results of the testing — saying that the samples couldn’t be relied on because they were gathered in the field.


The federal government is at least somewhat aware of these issues

https://www.epa.gov/assessing-and-managing-chemicals-under-t...

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2016-05/documents/fl...

Historically, its not unusual for California's government and industry to dump chemicals all over the state.


It isn't the responsibility of the manufacturer to provide samples for analysis (unless the law compels them). Take it up with your government.

> Like how can the government spray random chemicals all over the land and there's no way for the public to compel them

There is, by voting.


> It isn't the responsibility of the manufacturer to provide samples for analysis

In a sane world it would be


“Adding a regulation mandating manufacturer to provide samples for analysis would put too much of a regulatory burden on them and destroy the economy”

A conservative representative somewhere, maybe.


The insane part is you, giving up your power to solve your problems (and encouraging others to). If people voted, it would be much different - it's that simple. If they were politically active, it would be a whole different world - maybe something like the one they wanted.

Instead of doing that, you're spending your energy saying how hard it is.


no regulations are written by specialists and staff that implement the intent of the law passed by legislature or by executive order. Voting only pressures certain parts of that. The US and States have had large scandals regarding heavy industrial wastes over time.


Rumor is they couldn't figure out where to put the "warning this product is known to cause cancer in the state of california" sticker on the planes


Prop 65 is written on the propeller




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