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> Personally, I blame the Democrats for this.

Is there any reason in particular people should not be blaming Republican voters for "this"? The US had four full years of Trump and it was plain as day what he'd get up to from his campaign, and voters still think he was a good choice. At what point does the US stop coddling Republican voters and blaming Democrats, even if they ran a bad campaign?

The idea that a voter is ignorant and stupid to realize the consequences of their actions that they need a "campaign" telling them is frankly absurd.




I think this is a great point, and people honestly don't say it enough.

There was a clearly worse choice this cycle, even if you felt both options were not ideal.

Apparently, though, most people do not have a memory capable of spanning back past four years time. That and, depressingly, many people are woefully uninformed voters.

But this is a natural consequence of poor labor structure. Work the wage earner to the bone so that they have no time to actually consider their options, learn, and make informed decisions. Cut their leisure to a minimum so that every vote is a vote of vibes and gut feeling.

I feel this myself when assessing local candidates. I would love to develop a complete picture of each candidate and their beliefs, but with what time?


> Is there any reason in particular people should not be blaming Republican voters for "this"?

Because if the Democrats want to be the grown ups, they've got to act like it. Not keep pointing at the other guy and saying "he sucks, vote for me."


I’m baffled. Are you saying the Republicans were acting more like grownups? I think the Democrats learned too late that the voters didn’t want grownups and weren’t sure how to respond.


> I’m baffled. Are you saying the Republicans were acting more like grownups?

No, I'm saying they're both acting like children in their own ways.


You would think the republicans did themselves in by claiming tariffs would lower prices. And not really having an economic policy, claiming to have a concept of a plan, but really not even that. The lack of substance, and the effectiveness of that lack of substance, was definitely enough to throw the Democrats off their game.

Seriously, how do you even begin to counteract whatever it was the Republicans were throwing around? Narcissistic wild claims (Gaza/Ukraine wouldn’t have been attacked if I was president!), exaggeration (Biden’s non-recession was the worst ever!), the downright bizarre (I’m prettier than Kamala). It’s like running against Bizarro, what sane person would have even considered voting for him anyways?

The American voters are definitely at fault here, not the Democrats. They were given the smelliest, harmful garbage and they actually voted for it. What consequences come from this are their fault, not the Democrats that didn’t run a crazy bizarre candidate.


I think this is a bit disingenuous. It was more like "he sucks, he has no plan for X and his plan makes no factual sense for Y, vote for me, here's my plan for X and my plan for Y" (remember the whole concept of a plan thing?)




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