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The US left wing is far more supportive of trans rights, particularly youth gender affirming care, than its counterparts in Europe. For example, I do not think you'd see a Democrat outside of a swing district publicly say, "It's very important that we protect female-only spaces," as Keir Starmer has. Also, while on the campaign trail he said he wouldn't scrap the proposed ban on teaching young people in England about transgender identity in school, saying, "I'm not in favour of ideology being taught in our schools on gender," language not too dissimilar from the Trump administration's.


> For example, I do not think you'd see a Democrat outside of a swing district publicly say, "It's very important that we protect female-only spaces," as Keir Starmer has.

Maybe a year or two ago…the political landscape has shifted drastically in recent years and months.

California governor Gavin Newsom has a new podcast, and recently told Charlie Kirk (yes, he invited Kirk to pander to the young white male voters) something along the lines of “trans people shouldn’t play sports”.


That's not what Gavin Newsom said. What he actually told Charlie Kirk is that it isn't fair for women to have to compete against biological males. You can disagree with him but don't misrepresent his position.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-this-is-gavin-newsom-268...


That’s just saying the same thing with more words.

Add “…with others” to the end of my statement.

Pedantry is what the oppressors want.


Starmer is a centrist and Labour have been very weak against a trans panic being whipped up by right wing media.


Yes, that's my point. And there are many Labor MPs that are to the right of Starmer on this issue. The party that's closest to the Democrats (and arguably slightly more left on the issue though not by much) are the Lib Dems, and they got, what, 12% of the vote?

Also, do you not think American right wing media is not capable of whipping up panics? This feels like special pleading.


Outside of trans rights though, it’s hard to see what issues the us left is to the left of Europe on. What’s more, we actually have left wing parties in power and using govt machinery to advance what would now be called ‘woke’ in the us.




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