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> I feel like Penrose presupposes the human mind is non computable

i would be a bit more aggressive: Penrose asserts without evidence



So do devotees of computability.

Remember - there is no such thing as an objective consciousness meter.

Emulating the behaviours we associate with consciousness - something that still hasn't been achieved - solves the problem of emulation, not the problem of identity.

The idea that an emulation is literally identical to the thing it emulates in this instance only is a very strange belief.

Nowhere else in science is a mathematical model of something considered physically identical and interchangeable with the entity being modelled.


> Nowhere else in science is a mathematical model of something considered physically identical and interchangeable with the entity being modelled

you can make the argument that everything in science is a mathematical model... if you measure a basketball arcing through the sky, you are not actually privy to any existential sensing of the ball, you are proxying the essence of the basketball using photons, and even collecting those photons is not really "collecting those photons", etc.




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