> But people like you are fixated in alleged symbolism. In looks and form instead of function.
Don't generalize me because you don't know me, I'm not even American, republican or democrat.
Merely an history aficionados with interest in totalitarian government.
Some Bush Obama and also Biden decision were arguably bad and authoritarian. The unjustified war on Irak being the biggest one imo.
They did unconstitutional spying of everyone including American citizen communications, which is already bad enough.
But with American policy you got to look at facts, only facts because everything is so biased there.
COVID lockdown, which you criticize, what is the state or individual interest ? As far as I know it made people like you angry, not good. Its only benefit was to save lives. The government didn't benefit from it.
Trump threatening every tech company to get them to follow his own agenda and donate money, who benefit ?
Giving Elon musk who was never elected but also a major tech company leader, who supported him during the election, a strong position into the American administration, who benefit ?
Every totalitarian government has to rely on a minor but endoctrined part of the population to be able to sustain itself. I had never heard of the 'proud boys' and like with other candidates, either republicans or democrats.
Blaming all the country's failure on a few selected individuals, immigrants currently, in the past century it could have been the Jew or on another continent the kulaks.
I mean there is a lot to think of when you're watching trump and open a book about history.
Btw there is no moral high ground to have here, it's not a dick competition but 2 people speaking on the internet.
> You can't seriously say seriously say that Canada and France are authoritarian government because of COVID lockdown.
Not just because of that but definitely was one great example. You also have them jailing people over extremely authoritarian things like speech and "founding telegram".
> Even in America, 71% Americans agree it was necessary.
- majority in the US agreed to go to Iraq too.
Propagandized masses being authoritarian along with governments doesn't really change my point. Specially if dissent is punished, not tracked properly and disincentivized.
> Some Bush Obama and also Biden decision were arguably bad and authoritarian. The unjustified war on Irak being the biggest one imo.
> They did unconstitutional spying of everyone including American citizen communications, which is already bad enough.
Did? They codified many of those actions into law. So did other countries. But you will pretend Trump bad and totalitarian displaying a complete trump derangement syndrome while pretending you're well versed on the subject.
> But with American policy you got to look at facts, only facts because everything is so biased there.
> COVID lockdown, which you criticize, what is the state or individual interest ? As far as I know it made people like you angry, not good. Its only benefit was to save lives. The government didn't benefit from it.
You sound like someone who is not really prepared to argue about this if covid policies only has an upside of "saving lives in your mind".
Economies were destroyed. Freedoms destroyed. Health services like cancer checkups halted. The hygiene theater took over every aspect. Constitutional rights swept. Dissidents attacked by the state. Speech laws eroded. Nuremberg guarantees of health safety and not being compelled into medical experiments ignored.
You later talk about corruption but are absolutely unable to think that corruption existed during covid years. It just "poof", dissappeared.
> Trump threatening every tech company to get them to follow his own agenda and donate money, who benefit ?
Dude. I feel you're absolutely not ready to talk about this. I'm not even trying to be a jerk. Maybe gather your thoughts with an LLM and a pen first.
> Giving Elon musk who was never elected but also a major tech company leader, who supported him during the election, a strong position into the American administration, who benefit ?
Yes. Corruption can happen. The fact that you think this is something particularly unique to Republicans even you seemingly claim you don't is laughable.
> Every totalitarian government has to rely on a minor but endoctrined part of the population to be able to sustain itself. I had never heard of the 'proud boys' and like with other candidates, either republicans or democrats.
Lol. Groups forming responding to partisan violence against them is very typical. Obviously the media decides who is evil and who isn't. When people were giving speeches in universities groups of opposing parties/ideologies would come in to "bash the fash" and that naturally creates a cycle of violence
> Blaming all the country's failure on a few selected individuals, immigrants currently, in the past century it could have been the Jew or on another continent the kulaks.
Strawman. Also, migrants get blamed when they "don't vote right" like it happened with "Latino" voters this time around. The amount of vile and discrimination was ironic. Trump hates migrants is just the typical piece of propaganda. The same that people use in Europe when you argue against illegal immigrants as an immigrant.
> I mean there is a lot to think of when you're watching trump and open a book about history.
Dude. English is clearly not your main language nor is it mine but you need to do better. "Read a history book" is a 14 year old quip. You're one more partisan hack who claims side A is the worst ever and push the simplest of failed partisan narratives while brushing of years of recent history. You're not ready to have this conversation.
> Btw there is no moral high ground to have here, it's not a dick competition but 2 people speaking on the internet.
Nah. It's a very unprepared propagandized person with poor English saying "poor boys and Elon bad covid policies only help people, you angry, read history book"
> Every totalitarian government has to rely on a minor but endoctrined part of the population to be able to sustain itself. I had never heard of the 'proud boys' and like with other candidates, either republicans or democrats.
> > Lol. Groups forming responding to partisan violence against them is very typical. Obviously the media decides who is evil and who isn't. When people were giving speeches in universities groups of opposing parties/ideologies would come in to "bash the fash" and that naturally creates a cycle of violence
The "proud boys" and other white supremacist group backing up Trump are on another level that the usual partisan violence in the states.
IMO Antifa are as despicable but i haven't seen them invading the Capitol. On the other hand, i have seen Trump supporters on the January 6 attack the United States Capitol, invade it, leading to the death of several people.
is that even comparable ?
> Dude. I feel you're absolutely not ready to talk about this. I'm not even trying to be a jerk. Maybe gather your thoughts with an LLM and a pen first.
just like usa politics i judge the facts not the talking, and so far you don't want to be a jerk but keep acting like a jerk.
I can see the hate through your comment.
"Dude. English is clearly not your main language nor is it mine but you need to do better. "Read a history book" is a 14 year old quip. You're one more partisan hack who claims side A is the worst ever and push the simplest of failed partisan narratives while brushing of years of recent history. You're not ready to have this conversation."
Take a deep breath, and tell me seriously that all things considered, you don't believe that Trump isn't pushing to turn the USA into a totalitarian regime.
Even in America, 71% Americans agree it was necessary.
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/poll-majority-of-americans-say...
> But people like you are fixated in alleged symbolism. In looks and form instead of function.
Don't generalize me because you don't know me, I'm not even American, republican or democrat.
Merely an history aficionados with interest in totalitarian government.
Some Bush Obama and also Biden decision were arguably bad and authoritarian. The unjustified war on Irak being the biggest one imo.
They did unconstitutional spying of everyone including American citizen communications, which is already bad enough.
But with American policy you got to look at facts, only facts because everything is so biased there.
COVID lockdown, which you criticize, what is the state or individual interest ? As far as I know it made people like you angry, not good. Its only benefit was to save lives. The government didn't benefit from it.
Trump threatening every tech company to get them to follow his own agenda and donate money, who benefit ?
Giving Elon musk who was never elected but also a major tech company leader, who supported him during the election, a strong position into the American administration, who benefit ?
Every totalitarian government has to rely on a minor but endoctrined part of the population to be able to sustain itself. I had never heard of the 'proud boys' and like with other candidates, either republicans or democrats.
Blaming all the country's failure on a few selected individuals, immigrants currently, in the past century it could have been the Jew or on another continent the kulaks.
I mean there is a lot to think of when you're watching trump and open a book about history.
Btw there is no moral high ground to have here, it's not a dick competition but 2 people speaking on the internet.