It’s the year 2032, free speech is now only allowed on Twitter. Any speech criticizing Trump is automatically flagged and your personal details used to automatically fire you from your job, executed by the new “efficiency heads” installed into each board of private companies. People are always fired for “efficiency and performance” reasons. The people feel the cold grip around their neck removing their ability to scream. Most people have fallen in line, out of fear of being labeled a terrorist and getting your life ruined.

As I write this with a humorous cautionary intention, I’ve made myself worried by how plausible this scenario sounds.

> Any speech criticizing Trump

You mean any wrong thoughts detected by the DOGE-issued mandatory Neuralink.

Be aware that a large number of comments on these articles are also flagged and not visible.

You can turn on showdead in your profile if you’d like to see them.

Thanks. That is actually very helpful.

EDIT: I am aware of content that was removed from this page, but I cannot see it with this setting.

You can email hn@ycombinator.com if you have a specific issue. Generally speaking though user moderation doesn’t delete comments it marks them dead, which showdead reveals.

There are definitely some comments from this thread that were permadeleted or otherwise squashed beyond the "show dead" level.

Yeah, pretty shocking. Not sure what intellectual gymnastics you have to do to defend Trump/Musk's actions -- either you've drunk the Kool Aid, are cashing in on the scam, or don't care as you already have yours.

Having said that, one group that are happy with Trump are the crypto bros, because the SEC just dropped its lawsuit against Coinbase as a result of their support for Trump's re-election.

I thought you guys were for free speech

Very happy with the people doing that, keeps the place sane. If you want a dozen daily hysterical takes on the latest thing that Trump&co did, go on r/politics. I have no interest in seeing any of that here.

Considering that the most upvoted and active posts are related to DOGE, it appears that your interests are not aligned with the interests of many others on the site.

I don't want to hear about Trump all day either. I'd rather just hear about tech and science. But what's happening is having a huge impact on tech and science. If it weren't for Musk and DOGE these posts wouldn't even be here, so you can blame them.

> it appears that your interests are not aligned with the interests of many others on the site.

You cannot see all the comments left here. So you don’t know what’s being said, as a whole.

Everyone is concerned about quality, but I don’t think what you’re describing is characteristic of a curious community.

I’d say it is show a curious community about trying to understand what the heck is going on and what are the implications of what is happening.

There’s a bit of flame-throwing but nothing like Reddit and plenty of information in the comments.

> Very happy with the people doing that, keeps the place sane. If you want a dozen daily hysterical takes on the latest thing that Trump&co did, go on r/politics. I have no interest in seeing any of that here.

The fact that you are reading and posting in this thread suggests otherwise, my friend. If you truly had no interest, you wouldn’t read or post in threads about Musk and Trump.

You realize that you're pushing a narrative just as much? Sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la" isn't the "neutral position".

I do not claim to have a neutral position, I vote in every election, especially on the local level, where I actually express my non-neutral position.

It is also essentially impossible not to hear about the major things happening in the country, so staying informed is not much of an issue these days.

On the other hand driving yourself mad by doomscrolling and liking dozens and dozens of random posts about some random crap someone did that day does no good for anybody.

You're saying opinions like they are facts. Here are some of my opinions that differ.

I like getting a spread of news here. It is not an inevitability that I get it all in the same way from other places. I like an angle of logic over partisan screaming or head in the sand so I especially like people who tend toward logical arguments discussing things where I'm reading them.

I don't consider any of this "driving myself mad" or "doomscrolling" nor do I think blatant, egregious lies and corruption are "random people doing random things" and finally I think it DOES do good to know about and see (some of the) discussion about it.

I think there is a very real problem in willful ignorance of or ambivalence to corruption. I dont love when people try to tell me not to see or acknowledge or discuss things.